Can a Rife machine cure cancer?

Rife claimed that his original machines cured cancer. We have no reason at the present time to doubt this claim but it has not been absolutely proven. We don't know exactly how the original machines worked and so the modern machines probably don't work in exactly the same way. Some modern machines have been shown to have been useful in the treatment of some cancer patients but it would be misleading to claim that they represent an absolute cure for cancer.

In general it would be fair to say that Rife type machines have been extremely useful in the control and management of many diseases including many serious ones that haven't responded to conventional treatment but it would be wrong to say that these machines in their present form are a cure for any specific disease.

The Hungarian Company OncoTherm have done several clinical studies in Europe on treating cancer with their Oncotherapy device which uses a Rife frequency modulation. These trials did show a significant improvment in health and a reduction in tumour size.

All serious Rife researchers recommend that you should seek professional medical advice before considering any form of medical treatment with a Rife type machine.

Hello,

I would like to place a warning.

The radiation of the mobile phones, phone masts, cordless DECT phones, WLan (wireless internet), Bluetooth, etc. do harm.

Not so directly on healthy people, but on unhealthy people, it works like a catalyst.
Every item in the body, that has a flaw, will be inflamed and starts to explode.
So people, with for instance cancer, no matter what stage, no matter what therapy, will have the greatest trouble in curing, when they remain in an electrosmog rich surrounding.

A hospital is not a good place to be, because they almost all do have antennas on their roof, and they have metal beds, with electrically lifting systems, which can be an electromog burden all along.

So the first thing to be done is moving to an electrosmog free- or poor surrounding. And sleeping on a complete metal-free bed.

This advise is not only for cancer but for a lot of illnesses.
People sometimes wonder why a Rife treatment does not have the immediate success they expect.
It may have to do with the electrosmog surroundings.

Charles Claessens

My father-in-law, Vern (86 years old), had prostate cancer.

How did he know? PSA of 30-something, then bone-scan and biopsy (both positive), then a few months (2-4?) later had a PSA of 70-something.

What did he do? Starting July 23, 2005 he:

1) Took B-17 daily. First 1 100mg 3x per day with meals, then after 3 bottles were used up he took 1 500mg 3x per day with meals.

2) Used the RIFE Global Wellness machine daily - ran all the frequencies for Prostate (Prostate Cancer, Prostate Complaints, Prostate Tumor).

3) Occasionally took pancreatic enzymes, saw palmetto, and "cardifen"

Within a week or two the back pain he'd experienced every time he swang a golf club disappeared, and he played the rest of the summer (3x per week) without that pain. He now says he "feels great", and has more energy.

In Mid-October, 2005, the results from another PSA test was FOUR! UPDATE 4/17/2007-I got his medical records. It was NOT four. It was ZERO POINT FIVE (0.5) !!!!!

He's continuing to take the B-17 and using the RIFE machine daily, although in December we created a customized sequence for him that just does each of the prostate frequencies once. He plans to continue the B-17 and RIFE machine at least until his PSA count is down to zero.

WOW! :shock: This is most enlightening Cindy! :mrgreen:

A very big THANKS to both you and your father in-law for sharing this with us.
Testimonials are sorely lacking on any related forums :sad: so when we have the opportunity to read one, especially as encouraging as yours, it's such a TREAT. :hihi:

May your Dad in-law continue to be blessed with both Raphael's and Rife's healing energies, and ONLY go :arrow: from strength to strength.
Love and light,
@nnie :idea:

Update on Vern.

He did a colon cleanse and started feeling much better - he lost some weight, joints felt better, all the normal stuff.:grin: He got through almost a month but it was very rough for him because of the often and urgent need to go. Poor guy messed his pants several times 'cause he didn't get to the bathroom quick enough. :shock: Easy enough for anyone to do, let alone an 87-year old!

About 2 weeks ago we found out he was really sick. He was feeling like he needed to go to the bathroom at night almost every hour, when he went it burned, sometimes he felt like he had to go but nothing would come out. He was incredibly fatigued, and felt just awful. He said to Vic's sister that he thought the prostate cancer had got the best of him. We guess that's why he didn't go see the doctor.

We guessed he had a urinary track or bladder infection (VERY easy to get this when doing a colon cleanse!), told him how easy it is to get rid of that with antibiotics, and convinced him to go see the doctor which he finally did. YES he did indeed have something of the sort (couldn't get a straight answer from him) and was prescribed antibiotics (a Bactrin substitute) and something else (don't know what, but it was for the pain we think).

The very interesting part about all this is ... Vern told Vic the doctor said to him "You had prostate cancer, didn't you?" Vern said "Yes", and the doctor told him "well, you don't have it now". :hihi:

Now, this is GREAT news, but there's not any proof. I don't know how a doctor can tell FOR SURE that someone doesn't have prostate cancer. Can any of you doctors out there enlighten me?

Cindy

Cindy, this is truly WONDERFUL news! :hihi:
I am so happy for Vern and his entire family and circle of friends! :grin:

However, I just feel the need to point out a 'possible' little TYPING SLIP, which indicates a drug highly controversial for SKIN DISORDERS as opposed to what I THINK you meant, for bacteria such as in E-Coli etc ... which would mean BACTRIM as opposed to BactriN. ??????? :rolleyes:
E-Coli in particular is PREVALENT in those who take laxatives, for obvious reasons, and also those who participate in any anal sexual practices. I don't mean to offend nor disgust anyone, merely share my findings.

Please confirm Cindy, so that I don't make more of a fool of myself here! :@@:

With love and light and celebrations for Vern! :lol:
@nnie :oops:

I will find out if it's BactriN or BactriM. It may take a couple of days.
Cindy

I had colon cancer. I could press any place on my body and had pain and I could hardly lift 10 lbs of sugar off the shelf in the store to put it in the basket to purchase. Went to see a doctor and he asked me how long ago was it that I had a colonoskapy (sp) lower GI? I said about 5 years ago and when he got the paper with the results his reply was you don't need on but every ten years and that was the end of that so no help from the medical field. Went to a herbalist and what I thought was wrong with me was verified. Went to a friends and he had a rife machine producing between 120 to 140 watt out put believe max is 250 watt should never go above that for a human for treatment. When using a rife machine I highly recommend drinking a gallon of water starting about 15 to 30 min before starting treatment. I do not know the time that I spend for the treatment or what frequency but I had 3 treatments and waited for 2 days and then had 3 more treatments and that was all there was to it, no side effects. Have not been back and its been over 2 years now and to answer your question I would have to say yes and it depends on which machine you are using

Hi Will :wink:

This definitely sounds impressive, and I am so pleased for you, :hihi: but I'm curious to know exacly what procedures you followed AFTERWARDS, to determine being cancer free. :rolleyes:

Also, it would really help others, if you could somehow ask your friend to let you know the precise frequency treatments that he gave you and also most important, would be the brand and/or model of device that he used to treat you.

Were each of the 3 treatments 3 runs of the same treatment (set of frequencies), or 3 different treatments? eg. Detox, General Pain & General Cancer or possibly Detox, Colon_problems_general - 20, 440, 880, 1552, 802, 832 (See: CAFL - The Consolidated Annotated Frequency List http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioe...dotes/CAFL.htm )
and General Cancer or others?

Every bit of information helps, and the more precise, the better, as it saves those wishing to possibly perform the same, an enormous amount of guess work :@@: research (although still crucial, irrespective of the source) and thus loads of time.

Thanks for sharing this Will and looking forward to more ... :grin:

Blessings and congratulations!
@nnie:mrgreen:

Annie, he builds and sells these units as they have made some changes and he says what he makes are the most powerful units on the market and he sells them for approx. $3,000+ so I can't really tell you about his equipment and next week I hope to see him and find out the frequency's that was used for me and post them I had no side effects as I drank a gallon of water and you don't even know that you had a treatment except that you feel better each time.
that's all for now folks:smile:
God Bless
Bill

Hello Everybody,

I thought I would add my two cents worth on the subject "Can a Rife machine cure cancer?"

I have been working with a friend with advanced stage ovarian cancer almost 3 years now and we have tried a number of different Rife units on the market with little success and in some cases detrimental effects (where the cancer dramatically increased). In particular, we tried a unit called Magnaphase, that had been identified as curing lung cancer in one patient, but dramitically increased the ovarian cancer of my friend. Analyzing the signal from the Magnaphase, I found that there was a ringing of frequencies through 17.034 MHz (17 meter wavelength), the setting of the 1934 device used to treat carcinoma during the very successful clinic held in La Jolla, CA in the summer of 1934. I suspect that there was enough power to destroy cancer in the lungs (being much easier to pentrate), but not down in the heavy organ area, where my friend's ovarian tumors thrived. If you don't get enough power at the right frequency to the tumor, you end up stimulating the cancer into growing more, rather than killing it, just as Rife said.

My friend also tried the Rife Bare device from RTI up in Canada and the Bluelight unit from Ed Heft, but found greater response from a functional replica of the AZ-58 I built based on the schematics from the www.rife.org website. We also tried working with the ICOM-718 transmitter sending a modulation frequency in via the ProCom function generator received with the RTI Rife-Bare unit, also to no avail. We worked at 11.78MHz, 17.034 MHz and 1.604 MHz carrier frequencies.

That first year we worked together (2003), we did get some tumor reduction, but a calcium deposit from prior killoff seemed to start covering and protecting the tumor. And so the tumor continued growing, substantially increasing when we tried the Magnaphase device.

I got into this research at the beginning of 2002 when my sister-in-law was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. She passed away in six months in a most tragic way, as many of you probably know. But in that six months I learned enough about Royal Raymond Rife to know that some of the most important discoveries in medical science were acheived and then lost due to the ignorance, corruption and/or greed of a few.

By the time my sister-in-law passed in July 2003, I was convinced that we must figure out how the 1934 machine that sucessfully cured 16 of 16 advanced stage incurable cancer paitients in several months time worked. I vowed at that time to continue this work until we as a community have rediscovered this technology. I do this in memory of Kathy Berger, my beloved sister-in-law.

Information on super-regeneration can still be obtained from the American Radio Relay Leauge website by obtaining the QST VIEW CD's for 1915-1929 @ $39.95. A series of articles from the August to December 1922 issues of the QST Magazine explain super-regeneration. The new Rife History document on www.rife.org and the Rife Forum is an excellent effort by AAA Productions to describe a possible scenario for the evolution of Rife Technology from the 1930's through the 1950's. However, my money is on the 1934 device and not the 1935 (Rife No. 4) device. I am not a Hoyland fan at all.

At the beginning of last year I started building a vacuum tube super-regeneration system that could allow me to get into the frequency range of the 1934 unit; however, several months into the design I had a brainstorm one night just before falling asleep, that perhaps I could simulate super-regeneration in software more easily. So I have temporarily put the completely hardware version of a super-regenerator on hold.

I did my programming in LabVIEW software (National Instruments being the largest Test & Measurement specific company in the USA), which I use extensively as an Electrical Engineer (working in the medical electronics industrty over 25 years). I started with the "Carol" cancer frequency research paper found on www.electroherbalism.com . I came up with a protocol based on that research paper. To simulate super-regeneration, I would build complex harmonic rich waveforms based on the cancer audio MORs used in the 1950's. The harmonic rich waveforms were built up with from 5 to 60 harmonics. In October I finally came across Dr. Jim Bare's paper "Understanding Our Frequencies Through Harmonic Associations". Likewise I built up protocols based on Jim's paper using anywhere from 5 to 50 harmonic waveforms for at least the cancer frequencies.

From Jul 2005 to Jan 2006 we got decrease's in my friend's CA-125 cancer antigen marker, from the low 900's to the low 500's. Note that she was also doing chemo. However, she was doing the same chemo without any improvements whatsoever, before we stated these protocol's last July.

After seeing the Bedini pages in December, I got some new ideas myself. I had been amplifing my modulation frequencies from my LabVIEW program/ Data Acquisition Board in my computer with my version of Aubrey Scoon's Booster Amplifer, but I was trying to keep the amplitude down to not over modulate. It then dawned on me that I needed to get more power to possibly penetrate the calcium deposit layer that seemed to protect the cancer still within the tumor. It seemed that we were able to kill the cancer outside the tumor but not within, since we hadn't had tumor reduction in over two years.

I found I could increase the input peak to peak voltage into the Scoon Booster amplifier by almost 4 times (to 2.5 Vpp input) without degrading my complex harmonic waveforms for super regeneration simulation. I was now getting out of the Scoon booster amp an 80 Volt peak to peak waveform to modulate the RF carrier in the AZ-58 via the grid of the 812 transmitting tube. We tried sub-hamonic and harmonic carrier frequencies based on both the 1934 (Rife No. 3) and 1935 (Rife No. 4) units. She felt the greatest effect at 4.26 MHz (the 4th sub-harmonic of 17.034 MHz) and less effect at 3.2 MHz (the 2nd harmonic of 1.604 MHz). I also added a gate frequency at this time to further simulate super-regeneration, where the grid circuit is turned off half a cycle. Using a 1000 V probe to measure that output at my phanotron tube resulted in an offscale reading on my oscilloscope > 8000 Volts peak to peak suggesting that super-regeneration might actually be taking place with this setup.

Since January we have had sporadic increases in CA-125 cancer anti-gen marker tests; however at the last doctor's exam, the doctor was able to feel the back side of the tumor and for the first time in years instead of the gritty hardness of the calcium deposit, he felt the smooth soft tissue of the layer formerly beneath. There was also evidence of a depression in the tumor (hopefully indicating killoff). That was just a couple weeks ago.

My friend Marlene's niece' a massage therapist, also began palipating the tumor trying to break up the calcium wall.

Over the past couple months, Marlene has been doing blood smears at time intervals between treatments. An hour after a light treatment we see numerous big particles of tissue. Eight hours after the treatment, there appears to be muddy looking rivlets within the smear, that I wonder whether might be the tissue debris being broken down by the white cells. Sixteen hours in the number of big particles has decreased and the blood starts clearing up again. So this I believe is the Herxheimer effect as seen in the blood.

I pray that this continues and that we are close to rediscovering the Rife Effect observed during the 1934 cancer clinic. I thank for my courageous friend Marlene, who five years after late diagnosis of ovarian cancer, is still not on any pain meds, and God willing will she her first grandchild born this summer.

This post contains 5 attachments. May God bless you all in your search for truth, health and happiness.

Jim Berger

Attachments:

1. Sample of Carol, Bare and frequency spread protocols = Super Regen Sim1.doc
2. Increasing harmonics protocol sample, sample multiharmonic waveform, sample info saved to report = Super Regen Sim2.doc
3. Ovarian Cancer Blood Smears 1st two 1 hour after treatment, 2nd two 8 hours after treatment, 3rd two 16 hours after treatment = Blood Smears Ovarian Cancer.doc
4. AZ-58 Semi-Solid State proto photos 1 = AZ-58 Semi-Solid State Proto1.doc
5. AZ-58 Semi-Solid State proto photos 2 = AZ-58 Semi-Solid State Proto2.doc

The key factor for not having any problems after a treatment is drinking at least one gallon of water starting 15 min before time of treatment and finishing way before you go to bed as when I had my treatments never even felt any problems
God Bless
Bill

Thanks for all that valuable info Jim! :hihi:

I have never attempted to help anyone with cancer myself, although I have offered to loan a couple my device ... nobody's ever accepted though, because until very recently I'd never heard of anyone with any testimonials that were sufficiently conclusive and/or convincing for me, :cry: yet listening to some 'developers' (nothing short of entrepreneurs, often with zilch knowledge in this technology) and re-sellers of this equipment :shock: "Rife IS a MAGIC BULLET, and has cured THOUSANDS of people with cancer!". :mad:

As you have also experienced :rolleyes:
"But in that six months I learned enough about Royal Raymond Rife to know that some of the most important discoveries in medical science were acheived and then lost due to the ignorance, corruption and/or greed of a few."


Any false hope and worse still, blatant lies really upsets and even angers me, esp. knowing that quite a few are simply doing this for the $$$ and nothing to do with the poor folks' well-being. In my personal experience, as the general public are becoming more aware of Natural & Alternative Therapies, so the Gravy Train appears to be becoming increasingly popular. :evil:

Blessings,
@nnie :wink:

Thanks Bill,

Marlene is very good at drinking plenty of water throughout the day, as well as before and after treatment. I will send this on to her.

Jim

Dear Annie,

I truly believe, we are close to rediscovering the Rife Effect of the 1934 clinic. I will have much to share as Marlene and I progress in our study together over the next few months.

Bless you for leading the struggle on the Rife Forum.

Jim Berger :lol:

I would Like to put my two cents in as well. First of all I was looking for a machine 2002 2003 and found the site of the B-3 ultimate rife and also found the first balanced explanation of all the aspects of the Rife story pad plasma pros cons etc. without any bias! Just the facts, no one had been as informative up to this point. Mr. Garff has shown more true concern that any one else that I have looked into and talked to. The GB4000 is a benchmark that everyone will eventually have to honor.

I for one am tired of the bitching about price for something that can free anyone who wants from all disease! Most of you are using a computer that costs more than the price of the BG4000!!

I have been using this machine and have had nothing but great results!!

and I don't Dick around when it comes to finding the real thing!!!

I guess you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink
Robert

Did it occur to anyone that someone has rediscovered the Rife Effect????

Hello Robert,

I first met Jeff Garff at the Rife Conference in Las Vegas, NV in 2002. Jeff and I have been sharing information on our respective research, since that time. Jeff asked and I complied reviewing and commenting on his latest Rife History document before it's recent publication on this forum. I believe Jeff will be the first to tell you that his GB-4000 works very well on just about everything expect cancer or at least advanced stage cancer.

The elimination of advanced stage cancer has been my total focus thus far.

I believe by a combined effort on all of our parts, we will bring back that original technology that worked so well.

I agree that Jeff Garff, is a researcher of the highest integrity, in which he has shown again in the latest Rife History release. As can be seen in that article, Jeff has also become a convert in the thought that the key to understanding the Rife effect might lie in that original super-regeneration technology. Jeff's view is that the 1935 unit is the unit to focus on, while I believe the 1934 unit is the unit to focus. I am just springboarding off Jeff's Rife History, with a summary of actual work that validates that theory, both Jeff and I are investigating.

I am sure Jeff will jump in if I have any of this too far wrong. :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

Best Regards,

Jim Berger

Hello Jim & Robert,

I met Jim in Las Vegas as he said in his post. Since then we have been sharing our research and I consider Jim a good friend. He is one of the few people I know that would give you the shirt off of his back. I respect him very much and his work which he has been doing on super-regeneration. I believe super-regeneration is the way Rife's instruments worked and his lab notes and other documents show this was the case. As Jim stated, I had him read over the document I wrote about how Rife's instruments worked to help double check what I wrote. Super-regeneration and how it worked made me have to rewrite almost the whole document because almost everything we believed about Rife's instruments was not correct. Everything from page 6 to 35 has changed and I wanted to make it so those who read it could understand super-regeneration. The paper is on Rife.org.

Both Jim's and my focus has been to get an instrument to work the same as the 1934 instrument. But what I would really like is an instrument that worked the way Dr. Johnson's instrument did. It eliminated every organism at the same time. Super-regeneration is the only way you could accomplish this. You can read about his instrument on page 31 of the article. Right now both Jim and I are working on super-regeneration instruments. We have seen, as everyone else has, that cancer is a very tough bug to eliminate. Both Jim and I both have had people test 2008, 2128 hertz along with 1,604,000, 11,430,000, 11,780,000 and 17,033,000 MHz and have seen as much failure as success.

Best wishes,

Jeff Garff

Dear Jim and Jeff :wink:

You are both to be so highly commended - for your relentless & thorough research, your honesty and integrity, and mostly, for your willingness to share so unselfishly, for the betterment of ALL mankind. :hihi:

THANK YOU from myself, and my fellow country folk who shall, amongst millions of others worldwide, one day, undoubtedly benefit immensely. :lol:

With blessings and spiritual guidance always,
@nnie :grin:

Dear Bill :wink:

I truly do not mean to knock your good and kind friend in ANY manner whatsoever, but his statement "he says what he makes are the most powerful units on the market" is one that I, together with MANY others, frequently encounter, and it is statements such as these, which in my personal opinion, are 'sometimes' unfounded (not necessarily in your friend's case of course) that also lead me to make many of the comments and alligations that I do. :sad: It is not for self that I have become so vigilant in this arena, but rather, because of an innate desire to protect the innocent, who are most often, the most vulnerable and desperate, with little time on their hands to perform adequate research.

Another perfect example may be viewed below - again, not wishing to intentionally knock the people concerned, but rather, hoping to encourage ALL manufacturers and resellers to at least think twice before making the often 'outrageous' claims that they are inclined to make, in order to generate more $ales. :sad:

http://www.frequencyrising.com/rifemachine_trials.htm

"Our "rife machine" is built and programmed with the actual frequency formats used by Dr. Royal Rife. Built by original rife machine builder , Ron Rockwell, and programmed according to Dr. Rife's exact specifications, this rife machine is the ONLY frequency generator that duplicates the exact output, frequency, and wave formats documented by Dr. Royal Rife and Dr. John Crane."

The "RPG-900 Frequency Generator"
http://www.frequencyrising.com/RPG-9...Generator.html

"Results may vary; we cannot, and do not make any claims."
Well, the way I see it, this statement (indicated above) on this website's introductory page, and the other below indicate 'massive', totally unfounded and extremely MISLEADING claims ... in my personal opinion. :rolleyes:
I do however, stand to be corrected of course, and invite anyone to please do so.


The builder's own words! "NOTE: PLEASE BEWARE OF INFERIOR - AND POSSIBLY HARMFUL - IMITATORS! Our Rife-Crane-Rockwell RPG-900 frequency generator is the ONLY original machine and can only be obtained directly from Rockwell Scientific Research, or this web site."

http://www.frequencyrising.com/rifem..._Authentic.htm

Blessings,
@nnie :oops:

PS:
"Ron has issued a "Million Dollar Challenge" daring anyone selling these frequency machines to prove that they are using actual rife technology, and to provide any and all related paperwork that gives them legal right to claim themselves as true rife machines."
Come on 'authentic' guys ... surely this $ challenge (if honoured) will help you to pursue your wonderful work even further! I guess it depends on what "these frequency machines" means to him! ??????
Oh! And as for any "legal right" ... what of this, may he, himself have, I wonder?

Annie,

You are right on. You Go Girl! :grin: :hihi: :mrgreen:

Bogus claims do nothing but hurt us! :frown:

Jim Berger

Hi all this is the information: with a rife machine (tube & frequency output) for breast cancer 727, 728, 2127, 2128, 2008, 20, 880, and use 304 last and he did not say why and the out put of his machine is 100+ watts, first sitting is for 5 minutes for each frequency then use 10 minutes for each frequency on the next settings. If your machine if a true rife then you will feel better with each treatment and drink lots of water. He also said that a (spelling) kolonascope treatment would be best after the treatments to get out the dead cells? as he did not state why just a good thing to do. Hope this will be of help
God Bless
Bill

I for one don't give out bogus claims! just facts when I get them as I believe the Lord wants us all to be healthy and happy!

To Jim B.I would of course stop the chemo as no good results anyway.Its overal efficiency of 2.1% is poor anyway.A much better idea is the herbal curcumin contained in tumeric used in curry.Curcumin fights cancer in 12 diffrent ways which no drug is even allowed to do.susana

Susana,

Curcumin is a form of chemotherapy. A chemically based treatment of cancer.

You are quite correct - outcomes from the use of medically based chemotherapy is often poor. But regardless of how poor it is - the great majority of people with serious cancers are subjected to it. My paper was a way to enhance the effect not just of chemotherapy, but that of frequency devices too. Patient outcome is all that is ultimately important.

The paper is a bridge between the existing treatment chemical model and what will be the future, i.e. frequency therapy. The combination of the two treatment systems is how the future seems to be unfolding. There is world wide research going on into the synergistic effects of pulsed fields and chemotherapy. My paper tried to take this research and give it coherence, and a direction to strive for. The paper gets downloaded off my web sites a few hundred times a month. Many of these downloads go to universities and research institutes.

I recently posted an abstract to the forum from a paper to be published in the next month which seems to be a direct outcome of the ideas presented in my paper.

Take a close look at some of the postings in this thread. You will see that people are using forms of chemotherapy with their frequency devices to achieve excellent outcomes.

Jim Bare

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Originally Posted by susana moore

To Jim B.I would of course stop the chemo as no good results anyway.Its overal efficiency of 2.1% is poor anyway.A much better idea is the herbal curcumin contained in tumeric used in curry.Curcumin fights cancer in 12 diffrent ways which no drug is even allowed to do.susana

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Curcumin as chemotherapy-well if you like,butwhat other chemo can you obtain by eating lots of curry?i would not like to take a drug or real chemo which by fda rules can only act on cancer in one respect but curcumin does the action in 12 different ways so would be not allowed by fda.I:grin: prefer to consider it as herbal but you do as you wish.

You must have a frequency generator that produces a square wave with harmonics to be of any value. Dr Bare can tell you were to get a good one its approx $500+. Believe it will cost around $1500 to $2000 to build a good one.
God Bless
Bill

Sorry forgot to add this tidbit of info: In 1971 scientists stated that meat causes tumors and cancer. Sorry too long ago to tell you the mags that I read this in. A doctor in Chicago has over a 50% (don't remember the correct figure but its higher than 50%) survival rate as he has all his patients on a strict veggie diet, fruits and veggies fight cancer.
Also nitrates and nitrites cause cancer and you can find them in most sausages and lunchmeats.
God Bless
Bill
Anyone see this on TV some time ago that they don't know what to do with all the toxic waste so they are putting it in the fertilizers as when its diluted it will not harm anyone however if it does not dissapate or die its like mercury and it will keep building up and get in the plants and we consume them. I think we should be putting all the toxic waste in the drinking water and swimming pools of those who make it as when its diluted it won't hurt anyone Can only remember 4 states out of the 15 that is getting the fertilizer, California, Oregon, Washington and Oklahoma.
God Bless
Bill

We just got our GB4000. Instructions say to use it for five minutes for three days the first week and then you can increase the time if no adverse reactions. Is it then safe to use it everyday? Is it also safe to use it in the a.m. for one diagosis code and then the p.m for another diagnosis code and let it run all the groups of frequencies? Which could last 20 min or more. Thanks.

How many different auto programs can you run in one day? My husband has leukemia and there is one auto program for that and six other cancer programs that you're supposed to also run. Each program has several frequencies, which would probably take perhaps two hours to complete all programs. Should he just do one different code per day? How long can you stay on that machine at one time without any adverse reactions?

Dear Rhonda :wink:
Really sorry to learn of your husband's current condition :cry: - but feel confident that you're definitely on the right path. :hihi: I hope that those with a GB4000 device will come forward and assist you soonest ... as we all know just how daunting this all appears in the beginning.
You'll be a pro, offering others help within a few weeks!
In the meantime, do visit a fellow member's website, as he has a section specifically on Leukemia, which I'm sure will also help you heaps.
http://www.heal-me.com.au
All the very best - enjoy your new machine & God bless you both!
@nnie :grin:

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Originally Posted by Rhonda Landry

We just got our GB4000. Instructions say to use it for five minutes for three days the first week and then you can increase the time if no adverse reactions. Is it then safe to use it everyday? Is it also safe to use it in the a.m. for one diagosis code and then the p.m for another diagnosis code and let it run all the groups of frequencies? Which could last 20 min or more. Thanks.

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They mean 5 minutes every other 3 days. They want to give the body chance to fight off die off.
We use an interval of 2 days.
We use it for a max of 3 to 4 hours, and if there is no effect, you may have to considder other frequencies.
If you start without a good diagnose it may take long before you have any effect.
There is a post with a download in Alternative Health of the clark book cure of all diseases. I am not suggesting to use the Clark method, I try to point out that I use it to see what parasites and what fungi one celled and virus are related to some diseases. On some diagnoses you are able to find back what the main causers are. It may help to try these frequency sets allong with sets directly revering to the diagnose.
So far I noticed myself that good frequencies do at least give relief, and no good frequencies do nothing.
I can only talk to what I do and see.
To use Rife high frequencies, may be beneficial, but to use the sweep or converge option is maybe better, in such case you widht the possible working range of the frequency.
if you use RF mode, note the warning to put plastic under the foot electrodes to save waste of signal, you want to treat your husband, not the floor.
If you have time just read the introduction in the frequency list, it say what I try to explain here.


I hope this may be of help, Pad devices take as I believe longer to have effect than the high powered plasma devices.

Rob

I am in a Quite desperate situation since a very good friend of mine has brain cancer (the bigest about 6mm diam.). He had chemiotherapies and radiotherapies but nothing. His doctors give him a month or so and i read about Dr. Rife's revolutionary treatments only this week.
I seek for an advice for what to do taking into consideration the short time we have.
Thanks everybody in advance
Health to you all.

Oh Chris, I am so sorry :cry: but it's NEVER too late! :naughty:

I'm going to leave Rife info up to those far more experienced to advise here, but in the meantime, feel the need to share some other possibilities which won't interfere with any form of Electrotherapy.

Visit a fellow member's website: http://www.heal-me.com.au

Then please also look at what Dr. Howenstine advises here:

HOW TO RECOVER FROM CANCER :hyper:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james8.htm

Excerpt:
"Nobel Prize winner, Dr. Otto Warburg, discovered that he could produce cancer almost at will by lowering the oxygen level of tissues by 35 %. Tissues with low oxygen content are acidotic and raising the ph with alkalinizing therapy greatly increases the oxygen content of the tissue causing cancer to disappear. As we age our ability to keep our tissues well oxygenated gradually fails making the appearance of a malignancy more likely. "

Also go to the CANCER thread on this forum where you can find loads more info.

In the past 4 years, the one 'quickest miracle' treatment mentioned to me personally, involved an elderly lady in Australia, with a stomach full of tumours and given only a month at most to live ... yet 2 years later, when I last heard ... with Cesium Chloride, she was still doing extremely well. :lol: There is another similar story to your friend's, specifically involving brain tumours on www.curezone.com ... I first have to source it ... watch this space! :shock:

Love, light and loads of Raphael's healing coming your friend's way :Angel:

@nnie :wink:

Hi Chris,

I have been in a desperate possition myself, I found Dr. Clark before Rife, and just started as the book Cure of all diseases tell you.
I used a frequency generator and followed the advice to use the herbal cure.
In cases of cancer Clark also advice the use of ornitine, that seem to help shrink cancers.
The cure of all diseases may be helpfull.
I do not say you get the cancer cured, but you will see improvement of the condition, and will also see the time left will be lenghtened.
If you are lucky and use good nutitients, special good quality vitamins C and from the B complex, there is a chance to overcome this nasty disease.
I have no experience treatening cancers in the brain yet, so for the Rife part, it is hard to tell.
Nutritients and a polution free diet and surrounding help a big deal.

Good luck,

Rob

No! Rife machines cure nothing. The value of using energy forms to impact disease is multi-facited. The resonant energy couples with the solidified proteins that are common to pathogens which are absent in normal cells which remain plyable as their proteins remain in a liquid state. The value to the vibratory energy is due to the coupling of that energy to the solid mass of the outer cellular coatings causing disruption and allowing oxygen to enter the diseased cell and destroy it. The Rife machines are simply a tool. Many other factors must be addressed in order to resolve the disease. Diet and nutrition must be corrected and the drainage channels must be opened so as to allow the removal of chemical and biological toxins. The immune system is the only means by which the body heals. Rife technology is only one component to the process. You may wish to look at the power of bloodroot. It has been known to draw out tumors from deep inside the body including the head. Don't be discouraged and by all means, use Rife technology. Just don't rely on it as a single curative solution.

A real Rife could not cure, it could however devitalize disease causing agents.
Killing disease causing agents can be helpfull curing a disease.

The actual curing is as Michael already told above here, a combination of eliminating toxins, and good nutritients, and a constant flow of clean water to drain toxins. So the body cures in good conditions.

There is however no doubt in my mind that real Rife was the best and most helpfull tool in the west, to help devitalizing bacteria and virus that can not be fought off by the body allone.
That real Rife worked is proven by some others than only Rife.
http://www.keelynet.com/strep/strep.htm
This is done by people that understand Rife and what he did.
In my effort to find real Rife, I have at least found movies of setups that have been able to reproduce what Rife did.
This is however done with Radio Frequency and real Electromagnetic powers, not with simple square wave generators.

Rob

Hi Chris :wink:

I really did do my best to try and source that lady's true success story regarding treatment for her son's brain tumour (using Laetrile / Vit B17) but unfortunately without success. :oops: You try: www.curezone.com -which once gave a link to her personal website / blog (Something like Jenny's story :rolleyes: or Jenny's Blog?)

However, I managed to source the lady's case which I mentioned above ... as initially received via email in 2004:

"Regretfully, my uncle passed away. A week prior we bought some cesium
chloride from the States but it was too late, although we gave it to a very
sick lady riddled with cancer and with 1 week to live and she is now a
living testament. Within 4 weeks of treatment her stomach tumour reduced by 70% and her tests have not shown up any cancer to the amazement of all. We are keeping it hush as the medical profession does not approve."

I'd definitely be tempted to go the Cesium Chloride route, plus any others which RESONATE with you! Ask for divine guidance ... it's only a whisper away. :Angel: I personally believe that electrotherapy, be that Rife related or Dr. Clark's or any others, require some time at least, and much patience, and if time is supposedly crucial here ... :rolleyes:

Blessings,
@nnie:wink:

SEE more on Cesium Chloride here:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james14.htm :hihi:
http://www.royalrife.com/cesium.html
http://www.essense-of-life.com/info/cesium.htm
http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/cesium.html
http://www.cancer-coverup.com/fighte...um-science.htm

Much good advice above :hihi: - Thanks!
I can't wait to research BLOODROOT starting here:
http://www.google.co.za/search?hl=en&q=Bloodroot&meta=

It's great learning all about these incredible ANCIENT HERBS.
@ :wink:

Another good site concerning Blood Root and other escharotic cancer salves is at the following site. Good alternative cancer information also.

http://www.truthquest2.com/cancersalves.htm

Dan Bergman

And even more on BLOODROOT and other alternative cancer therapies here: http://www.cancerx.org/science_of_bloodroot.html

If by chance that page doesn't open, go to: http://www.cancerx.org

:mrgreen:

Hello Jim,

I am new to the forum and have a question about some lines in your 4/06 post>>>See quote below<<

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Jim Berger

Hello Everybody,

I thought I would add my two cents worth on the subject "Can a Rife machine cure cancer?"

I have been working with a friend with advanced stage ovarian cancer almost 3 years now and we have tried a number of different Rife units on the market with little success and in some cases detrimental effects (where the cancer dramatically increased). In particular, we tried a unit called Magnaphase, that had been identified as curing lung cancer in one patient, but dramitically increased the ovarian cancer of my friend. Analyzing the signal from the Magnaphase, I found that there was a ringing of frequencies through 17.034 MHz (17 meter wavelength), the setting of the 1934 device used to treat carcinoma during the very successful clinic held in La Jolla, CA in the summer of 1934. I suspect that there was enough power to destroy cancer in the lungs (being much easier to pentrate), but not down in the heavy organ area, where my friend's ovarian tumors thrived. If you don't get enough power at the right frequency to the tumor, you end up stimulating the cancer into growing more, rather than killing it, just as Rife said.

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The question I have is about the optimal use of the pad devices in terms of their placement. The woman who recommended my Rife device has had a remarkable success in treating her breast cancer. She told me that she places the pads between her upper arms firm against her breast area above the tumors. It seems that from what you are saying above that the placement could be very important. What would be the ideal placement for prostate cancer? One I have been trying is laying down with one pad on my groin and one on my lower back. That has symmetry. How important is symmetry of placement I wonder. For example in analogy to the breast cancer example I gave above one would think that placing one of the pads on the crouch area would be called for. But there does not appear to be any symmtrical area for placement there.

Thanks in advance for any ideas here.

Hap Crater

Hap, what device are you using? Don Richards

According to the book Blast It (by John Crane with information about pad use on prostate cancer the positive pad should be put about a fist above the coccyx. So you could lay on one pad, and hold the other pad (neg.) a fist below the belly button. According to the book Barley Green can also help restore cells and purify the blood stream so that oxygen can reach all parts of the body.

Rob

Thanks Don and Rob for your replies. The device I own is a PFG-100.
I assume just like my starter jump cable links that red is positive and black is negative.

Another question: I have been using one of the 6 or so prostate frequencies 4 days a week for about 6 minutes a session. On a fifth day I spend about 1/2 hour cycling through all of the frequencies (it spends about 1 minute then goes to the next). I am not sure if it is known which is more effective. It seems that focusing on one frequency at a time would be more likely to have the desired effect as 1 minute may not be enough time for the virus to be destroyed. Do Crane or Rife give any indication on this?

Thanks

Hap

Hap

Important Considerations

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We like using electrode pads as outlined in Blast It! Book 2. However,
if you are experimenting with bare electrodes (which is not recommended), and if you decide to cover
them with damp cloths or sponges, be sure to use separate cloths for each electrode. If this is not done,
and one cloth is placed over both electrodes, the frequency will pass directly from one electrode to the
other through the damp cloth or sponge, and bypass entirely the tissue that is the intended target of the
frequency.
This same principle applies when using pans of Epsom Salt water, using either the recommended
electrodes in Book 2 or bare electrodes. Do not place both electrodes in the same pan of salt water. If
both electrodes are placed in the same pan of salt water, you are shorting the electrodes through the
Epsom Salt water, and the frequency will pass through the water, and not through the intended tissue.
Do not touch bare metal electrodes together while the frequency is turned on, or you risk damaging
your equipment.
Many experimenters do not realize that it may take 60 to 90 days to reach most or all of the
targeted microorganisms in the case of chronic infections with an experimental electrode system.
If more information on pad placement is desired, refer to any literature regarding electrode
placement of galvanic stimulators. (From Blast It.)

The basic time used is 5 Minutes, but in some cases 30 minutes to over 1 hour are mentioned. Using a Zapper, every day use is recommended, untill real tests in a hospital (blood tests etc.) show you are free from the parasites you treat for.

Rob

The reason Rife only treated patients every two or three days, was so the person could detoxify the body. Most therapies that kill virus or bacteria require that you drink lots of water and take some herbs that aid in the detox process.

I just went to that website and was dumbfounded! I am so greatful for this information! Thanks a million times for forwarding on this important info!
God Bless you!
Monica Vinci

Sounds like a very interesting proposition. But what about a Faraday cage? A faraday cage prevents any electromagnetic waves from entering inside it due to the unique properties of metal and the effect electromagnetic waves have on it.

My question is...if we stuck someone in the above said cage, we would literally cut all external sources of electromagnetic radiation and may generate this electrosmog poor environment that has been mentioned. Would this make the person get better? Or would the thought of being a caged chicken make them worse?

Taking it to a higher level, lets say we have the person in the faraday cage BUT this time, we have the person with the Rife machine in there with the person. There would be no other sources of interference. Would this be a better way of treatment?

Thank you for your attention. I really would like to know, I haven't yet read everything on this forum but I wish to develop a way using the rife machine to help fight the HIV virus. So far, my suggestions have frustratingly fallen on deaf ears.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Charles Claessens

Hello,

I would like to place a warning.

The radiation of the mobile phones, phone masts, cordless DECT phones, WLan (wireless internet), Bluetooth, etc. do harm.

Not so directly on healthy people, but on unhealthy people, it works like a catalyst.
Every item in the body, that has a flaw, will be inflamed and starts to explode.
So people, with for instance cancer, no matter what stage, no matter what therapy, will have the greatest trouble in curing, when they remain in an electrosmog rich surrounding.

A hospital is not a good place to be, because they almost all do have antennas on their roof, and they have metal beds, with electrically lifting systems, which can be an electromog burden all along.

So the first thing to be done is moving to an electrosmog free- or poor surrounding. And sleeping on a complete metal-free bed.

This advise is not only for cancer but for a lot of illnesses.
People sometimes wonder why a Rife treatment does not have the immediate success they expect.
It may have to do with the electrosmog surroundings.

Charles Claessens

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A car is a cage of faraday, yet you can use a mobile phone from it.
I think a cage of faraday only keep you save from lightning and high tension bursts.
Electrons like to travel on the outside of spheres, and the major reason that you are save from high voltage bursts.
I have been experimenting with this concept, but not yet been able to create an EM wave free space.
I hope to be able to find any owner of a sea container, to do some experiments.
The only alternative you have is try it yourself.

Rob

from http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/micrwav...ets/reduce.asp

Reducing Exposure - using your existing phone

Use your phone only when necessary, and keep the call short.
Where possible, try to only use your phone in areas with the best signal, as this can reduce the emissions by up to 500 times.
Indoors, use your phone near the window and make sure it is between your body and the window.
Hold the phone away from your body immediately after dialling, as the phone uses maximum power until the call is answered.
Where possible, do not hold the phone next to your eyes, breasts, testicles, kidneys, liver or abdomen if pregnant - ideally, keep the phone away from your body (such as in a bag) when it is not in use.
If you have to keep it next to your body, a location such as rear trouser pocket will help keep it away from major organs, and try to make sure the antenna is on the outer side.
Using a mobile phone in a car or train traps the fields inside the metal frame of the vehicle, and should be avoided except in an emergency.
If you are not imminently expecting a phone call, you can greatly reduce your exposure by having the phone switched off when you carry it around instead of just on standby, as your phone contacts the nearest mast every time you move into a different masts coverage, and also checks regularly even when you are stationary - This contact is always made at the phone's full power.

Buying a new phone and / or its associated protective equipment.

Buy a phone with a long 'talk time', this means a more efficient phone.
Phones with external antennas are more likely to focus the radiation further away from your head, and are favourable to internal antenna models.
Buy a phone with a low SAR, but don't rely on that to guarantee your safety. SARs vary by a factor up to about 5. Some high SAR phones are actually very efficient and normally work at low power, some low SAR phones are inefficient and normally have to work at high power. The smaller phones often have higher SARs and therefore are likely to produce higher exposure levels.
Check, if you can, if it has a working DTX (discontinuous transmission - they don't all work even when they say they do) capability.
Your exposure can be greatly reduced by using a hands-free kit, such as those provided by rf3air.
Do not rely on unscientific 'gizmos' to give you the protection you need. If you wish to use one, use your common sense as well

Hi guys, my name is Hans and I am intending to purchase a Rife machine to help my mother who has two cancerous tumors, the one that concerns us at the moment is the one that she has between her wind-pipe. and Sternum. It is causing her servere breathing difficulties as it is placing pressure onto her wind-pipe as its growing. Doctors were unable to sucsessfully obtain a biopsy via an endoscope. Why they didn't do a needle biopsy beats me.:shock:
She has had tumors removed before via surgery a few years ago and now she only has 50% lung capacity, therefore the Doctors say that it is too risky to operate and she refuses Chemo. She is not yet in pain and the Doctors say she has between 3 - 9 months left:cry: . She has however agreed to go along with the Rife treatment:smile: .
It is up to me to find the best machine available, the one that I first came across is the Global Wellness Model G+ at www.rifehealth.com can anyone comment on this machine, or unbiased alternatives please with explanations as to why (I am ready to purchase this week).

Please guys help me out here:neutral:

Hi Hans :wink:
So sorry to read about your Mom's condition :cry: ... but never mind, 'collectively' we'll get her back to her former glory somehow. :hihi:

Although on the opposite coast, do please research whatever you can about the most amazing Dr. Holt ... whom Peter has become personally acquainted with.
See: http://www.rifeforum.com/forum/showt...highlight=Holt

The ADVANCED forum search facility will lead you to even more info on this remarkable man and his incredible work DownUnder.

Also, take other renowned 'therapies' / 'alternatives' into account, but I guess that if you intend visiting Dr. Holt's clinic, it may be worth hanging-ten until he and/or his practitioners can advise you appropriately. If I were in Australia, that would be my first STOP with either self and/or a treasured one! (God forbid!) :hihi:

Blessings,
@nnie :grin:

Hi Guys, me again, and of course more questions :neutral: .

Can anyone explain to me why there are so many frequencies for any one type of condition. Could it be because none of the manufacturers really know the correct frequency, thereby using a 'hit or miss' aproach :-? :?: . Or is it for some other reason.

Please keep in mind that I do not yet posess a machine and I am still learning the ropes.

Sorry to hear about your mother's condition. I hope you use several non-toxic methods to help her recover. There is too much at stake to "put all of your eggs in one basket". Results are mixed with modern Rife devices where cancer is involved.

There are many types of cancer and what frequency works in one case may not work for another. There also could be cases where the frequency is not directly hitting the cancer but may be boosting some immune response.
With the GB-4000 and many other machines you can run sweeps and hopefully some sensation will be felt when you hit an effective frequency. I remember a post here not too long ago where good results were achieved with 666 Hz.

There are quite a few posts on the subject in this forum. Do some searches and compile a list of frequencies to try.

Curcumin, Ginger and Green Tea interfere with the growth of cancer and would be in any cancer program, if I had the disease. I use all three as a preventative.

I hope you can help your mother beat this. Please let us know how it all works out. There are many people here that can make suggestions, but remember that most of us are not doctors or health care professionals.
Just people trying to find a better way of staying healthy.

Best Regards

Dan Bergman

Hi Dan,

Thanks for your response, I have done a great deal of research already by talking with some of the members of this Forum as well as reading just about every post ever placed into this Forum. I have also been to many other websites belonging to Rife technology uses and suppliers.

At this stage, I am seriously considering purchasing a GB-4000 along with the Amplifier, as it appears to be the most proficient and versatile piece of equipment available on the market to date.

As for supliments, other than water, I can only suggest to (but not force) my Mum to take, the ultimate choice is hers. At this point in time she has only agreed to the Rife machine and I am happy that she has chosen to come this far.

I am greatfull to all members who are here to help my Mother and I through this venture and I sincerley embrace your support. :smile:

As far as the GB-4000 treatment is concerned, it seems to me that it should not be used every day (like some distributors recommend) as the body needs to recover from each treatment for a couple of days to expel all the dead tissue, therefore I will only use it every three days. As for the actual frequencies that I will use, depends on a combination of my research and what is to be found in the manual, including carrier, harmonics, and cleansing (detox) settings etc. But I am still open to suggestions at this stage. :grin:

Kind regards

Hello Hans,

The GB is a fine machine and easy to use.

I agree that every day would be too often, especially at first. It varies with age, disease, and reaction of the treated individual as well as other health issues involved.

It is kind of obvious that a 16 year old would be able to tolerate much more treatment than a 70 year old. I do not know why the any blanket statement as to how often to use one of these machines is given. My wife could only tolerate one treatment for Lyme every week at first. Now that the bacterial load is minimal she could do it every day. We still only do it once every two weeks when no symptoms are present. If she is having symptoms we have done two days in a row one one occasion. I think you need to go by the reaction of the person more than anything. Everyone detoxes at a different rate.

Since you are obviously a thinking person, you will figure it all out. You would not be here otherwise. Maybe you can get your mother to like green tea. Just do not tell her it is a treatment. I am not to fond of it either, but coffee is too hard on my defective guts so I will have to get used to it. I hope it works well for you. I am sure everyone here will be interested in your progress.

Good Luck.

Dan Bergman

Hi Daniel, :smile:

Yes, going along with how the patient feels would be a good benchmark to work by.
With what I have read about using the GB-4000, it mentions that you need to wet the cotton covers for better conduction, of course this makes absolutely good common sense but then I read a post on this Forum (could have been from Annie) that one should use salt water.

Now we all understand that salt water is a much better conductor than water by itself. I am just wondering why it was not mentioned in any of the information on so many websites that I have read regarding 'Pad' units. Is it mentioned in the manual that comes with the GB-4000 :?:

As for getting my Mum to drink green tea, or any tea for that matter will see my work cut out for me because she is, and has always been a coffee drinker. I can't even remember a time that I ever saw her drinking a cup of tea. But hey you never know, leopards have been known to change their spots :grin:

Kind regards

The GB-4000 manual just says to use the wet cotton covers. This is how we have used it also.
I think salt water is occasionally mentioned for the very reason you have given. I suppose if you were using distilled water or water with no impurities salt would be called for. It is the impurities that make water a conductor to begin with and I doubt any tap water would be so pure as to be a poor conductor of electricity. In any case a bit of salt will not hurt anything and then you can be sure of a good circuit. Some even put the grounding wires in a pan of salt water with the feet in it to make sure of a good ground.

I sympathize with your mother. Coffee is far superior to tea in my book.
I feel like I am drinking my own bath water when I down a cup of green tea. If it is any consolation we can both drink that weak substitute and hate it together. Misery loves company they say.

Best Regards

Dan Bergman

Hey guys :wink: ... you should try SA's ROOIBOS tea :hihi: it really is healthy and tastes wonderful too. I believe the folk in Asia go mad over it. :mrgreen:
It's REALLY inexpensive here, but I noted that buying thru' the Net is almost 10x the local price. :sad: It's still worth it. Hans, I'll put you in touch with a SA importer to Oz ... remind me if I forget. :rolleyes: Her prices are very reasonable too. Here we go: http://www.satooz.com/category12_1.htm
You'll LOVE it ... black ... well a golden colour actually.

Hans, have you visited ELECTROHERBALISM website yet? :rolleyes: It's a mine of valuable info, and easy to miss some info too. http://www.electroherbalism.com/index.htm

Dr. Hulda Clark's always recommended a pinch of salt in the water into which one wets ones wraps for electrodes. :idea:

Good luck!
@nnie :grin:

Hi Annie,

Thought I had disapeared didn't you, but you get that when you send people off to websites that takes them all day to read :grin: :grin: :grin:

Kind regards :silly:

As Daniel Bergman so eloquently surmised most of us Forum frequenters fit neatly into the category of “health hacker.” This is not necessarily true in every circumstance.

I have spoken to a Forum member, Stephen Heuer, www.cocoonnutrition.org several times & consider him borderline brilliant regarding health supplement products – He has been in the field for more than ten years & his information regarding products useful against cancer is extensive.

Instead of researching hundreds of websites & products, contacting Stephen’s staff is a very efficient way to discover the alpha/omega currently available in health food supplements, vitamins, herbs, etc...

Frank

I seriously believe that a GB4000 can do what Rife did.
John Bedini is so far the only person that reproduced Rifelike results.
If Mr. Bedini have said that a GB4000 has germ killing qualities, than I expect him to tell the truth.
The only thing that is tricky is to use the right frequncies.
I have reasons to believe that the germs Rife killed with his machine, today have slightly differend frequencies.
Most people work from over fifty years frequency lists, and they may in some cases not be effective anymore.
Evolution and medicines like antibiotics may add to that.
This may also be a reason why some frequencies work and some not.
Next is, to have succes you need the right diagnose, and most of the people that work with a GB4000 are no M.D. and depend on other M.D.'s diagnose.
If this diagnose is not good, the frequencies may not work.
We all know this as a fact, and the result is often that you have to experiment with frequencies, starting from an original diagnose.
The reason why we all advise to use herbs and all kind of things, is simple: the more good stuff you get in your body, the easier it is to recover.
Anyone that think you can do it with only frequencies, may lose the battle in the end.
Frequencies for Osteomyelitis seem to work, Frequencies for Human Papilloma Virus not (not that trange since we know there are at least 18 differend types).

Rob

Hi everyone,

It has been my understanding since I started this research that the frequency generators are the basic equipment used for the destruction of the cells causing the problem and the use of natural suppliments (including water) are used to flush the toxins out of the body and regenerate the immune system.

What I am having a little difficulty with is why so many members of this Forum own/use more than one frequency generator :@@:
Have they bought cheaper (low power) ones to begin with only to find out that they did not perform as expected, therefore upgrading to better units, or is it a general lack of faith in any one of these devices that has caused them to buy multiple units so that they can try different ones on alternating days of treatment :?:

Kind regards

:lol: Oh Hans, you make me smile! :hihi:
One area where Electrotherapy isn't (in my opinion) very effective, is treating 'addiction'.
When my parents moved home about a year ago, my retired Med. Eng Dad could've opened his own online "Tools For Healing" store with what he'd accumulated over the past 50yrs. :shock: :hihi:
@nnie :grin:
PS: Forgive me if I'm wrong ... but I think it's mostly "boys and their toys!" :silly:
Oh! After all those years and all those 'toys', by the time I got hooked on ONE Frequency Generator and a couple of zappers (I loan these out for folk to use between Freq. treatments, because I believe that works best), Dad mentioned that he'd learned, that no matter which Electrotherapy device or 'alternative' healing method one used, the KEY INGREDIENT was FAITH / BELIEF. :) If one (or when helping another, both parties) truly believed in the eventual efficacy of 'whatever' method was being used, the outcome would most often, in his experience result in success.
It's the "Law of Attraction" ... like attracts like!

Hi Annie :wink:

The use of frequency generators for addiction has never crossed my mind, thus I havn't done any research about it, for now I will just take you word on that issue Annie. :grin:

I am an avid believer in the use of audio frequenies/harmonics to heal the body by destroying the bad cells and balancing the immune system, I know that it CAN be done (using a powerfully suficient device) and the only question that remains is the correct frequency selection/s for any particular problem.

Herein lies the biggest hurdle for all of us. So far I must have compiled one of the largest libraries of frequencies on my PC known to mankind, (at least in my own mind):grin: . Eventually I will correlate them all into my own database but for now I am still collecting more frequencies from various scources. I don't know if I will achieve anything by doing this but I hope to at least condense/reduce and cross-reference sufficient data to logically come up with some 'basic' frequencies to work with. :smile:

Kind regards

Hans :wink: The way I look at 'it', is that very often, wo/man in general tends to complicate things for her/himself ... often turning something very basic into a rocket science unnecessarily ... yet mostly only through enthusiasm and an innate sense of perfection and/or personal fulfilment. :mrgreen:

Let's not forget though, that the most frequently used device for the LONGEST period of time, and WITH amazing results, was the Bio Solutions (now available under a vast array of different brand names) pre-programmed, CODED :evil: pad frequency generator. The majority couldn't decipher actual frequencies anyway, and cared LESS about these anyway, instead, just getting down to using these machines by selecting whatever sequence the originator had pre-programmed and listed on her recommended treatment list. THIS WORKED! :hihi:

Then all of us 'smarty pants' came along ... and so, this therapy appears to become more 'n more complicated with time and more 'smarty pants' constantly coming on board. :rolleyes:

If one only had a bicycle to get from A to B, one would naturally take the quickest, easiest route ... but when one has a car, the distance is often MUCH greater with many more obstacles en route. :lol:

ENJOY! ENJOY! No matter which route you choose to take dear Hans. :wink: Please keep what you have on file, and try to avoid doing what I did, by printing everything out :shock: ... I have a pile so high, and NEVER touch it. :oops:

Blessings,
@nnie :grin:

Hi Annie :grin:

I fully concur with you views and the last thing that I wish to do is to further complicate the whole issues of frequencies, in fact, quite the opposite, I am trying to simplify the whole mess of available frequencies (at least for my Mum's problem). Of course I will go with the recomendations from the manual (GB-4000) to begin with. This also brings me to another point. Does anyone know who the manufacturers are of the GB-4000 :?: this info should be on the compliance plate at the back of or under the casing.

Kind regards

Hans :wink: Having recently become a distributor of the GB4000, I, plus any other distributors, most as far as I know, also forum members (but scarce) surely know who the manufacturer is. :hihi: It took me MANY months to find out, as those I approached initially, claimed to be 'the' manufacturer (maybe worded slightly differently though) themselves! :shock: :lol:
This isn't important to know though, as long as your supplier gives you the service he/she promised you. :mrgreen: Manufacturers don't want to be bothered with clients' zillion questions ... that's why they pay others to perform this essential service on their behalf. :wink:

@nnie :grin:
PS: Please don't ask me though, 'cause I'm not telling. :oops:

Do please read the articles posted at: http://www.rifeforum.com/forum/showt...=6469#post6469
especially the first, Devvy Kidd's. :frown:
Sadly, Australia (like MANY other UN countries) is fast on the heels of the FDA.
The PharMafia appear to indulge in multiple bed partners ... :evil:
Hopefully they'll practice some degree of racism though, and leave us in Africa alone ... or better still, that our leaders continue to see right through their evil plans, and have the strength to fight them off for the sake and wellbeing of their people. :hihi:

Bye,
@:grin:

PS: We need more people like John Perkins http://www.johnperkins.org -
Dr. Bill, Devvy Kidd, Dr. Mercola, Jon Barron, Gary Null etc. etc. to continue to so courageously and relentlessly spread the TRUTH. They all also deserve our support. :hihi:

I believe that almost any halfway decent function generator can do what Rife did, if used properly. This means wiring electrodes to hands and feet. Pulsed DC with the proper polarity (usually negative to left hand and left foot, but there Are exceptions).

For those that can't afford a ~$2,000 frequency generator designed to run Rife frequencies there are good models for as low as $250. I know of a lady that has used one of these cheapies on many people with exceptional results. I think it's more the method than the machine.

I never post anything here and just noticed all these devices under my name. We only manufacture the M-Pulse 5000 magnetic pulser (not all these other devices). I'll have to find how to edit my profile and correct this.

There must have been a questionaire that asked what I've experimented with.

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Originally Posted by Hans Gimpelj

Hi everyone,

It has been my understanding since I started this research that the frequency generators are the basic equipment used for the destruction of the cells causing the problem and the use of natural suppliments (including water) are used to flush the toxins out of the body and regenerate the immune system.

What I am having a little difficulty with is why so many members of this Forum own/use more than one frequency generator :@@:
Have they bought cheaper (low power) ones to begin with only to find out that they did not perform as expected, therefore upgrading to better units, or is it a general lack of faith in any one of these devices that has caused them to buy multiple units so that they can try different ones on alternating days of treatment :?:

Kind regards

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I first learned from electro medicine in 1993, thanks to Marjory Phillips, that was the Hulda Clark way.
Since I was unable to find the right electronical components to build my own zapper, I bought a frequency generator because H. Clark told in her books that would be a substitute for a zapper.
in 1994 I first learned about Rife, and in 1997 I first bought a machine programmed for Rife and Clark frequencies.
I learned the difference in Rife, Hoyland and Crane frequencies in 2003, the year we bought a GB4000.
The Rife Hall machine we bought in 1999, was bought more as a collectors item instead of a machine for use.
I made the zapper in 1994, but by than we notiuced already that the effect of the function generator was better than the lower power of the zapper.
Whit the function generator we pretty much had the same results as H. Clark tell in her books.
Our curiosity for the real Rife frequencies came later, but the results we have so far using a GB4000 next to a Global Wellness clone is obvious.
It looks like the effect of the GB4000 using the carrier wave has better results on most conditions than without the use of a carrier wave.
The signal of the GW clone is in fact not able to penetrate cells, and the signal of a radio wave does.
Because not all people have the money to buy a GW or GB my advice will be, make your own zapper, in the end it has remarkable results, but in all cases you have to stop poluting yourself, or it will not work. This is something that Hulda Clark also found out :)
We bought the GB4000 to prove for ourselves that Rife was right and that he was no evil magisian.
I can not prove what I do work, I have no microscope, but sometimes you just have to believe others like Raymond Rife and John Bedini like I did.
The results speak for them, but I do also have no succes at all. I think in that cases the frequencies may be wrong, or the people you try to help do not change any of their livestyle.

Rob

Hi Rob,

Ok, I can now understand your situation. It all makes good sense :smile: but I would like to hear from some other members as to why they have so many machines, could be though, that they are all in the same situation as you.

Anyhow you mentioned that cost :sad: was a large factor for some, there is a completely free PC-operated Frequency Generator, complete with list of ailments, explanations and frequencies all in the program. You just select the ailment from the list (hundreds) and the program sets itself up. It is fully automatic or programable, you can add/subtract frequencies, change the run time on any one or more frequencies, change wave types etc.
The only thing that you need is an amplifier and contact or ray tube. It recomends that you use asuitable amplifier that can reach the higher RF mode, it also has a RF clipping mode, starting from 20MHz you can lower it in stages to suit your amplifier. It mentions a suitable list of amplifiers, the GB-4000 is not on the list but the list is so far incomplete.

If you wish to check it out, here is the link.

http://www.heal-me.com.au/

Select FreX from the left-hand pane then scroll down on the right to access the download. I downloaded it last night and played around with it for a while just using my PC speakers as I do not have my GB-4000 yet.

The first thing that you will want to do when you open the program, is go to the button, bottom left of screen "view buffer" and change the setting to clear after selection, everything becomes much easier then.


Kind regards :smile:

I already tried frex and a dozen other software generators.
Without amplifier and wave corrector it seem useless. I have not seen any effect from pc generated frequencies.
Most have to work with square waves, and limited to the audio range, this make them only suitable for the less effective Crane frequencies.

Rob

I think a GB4000 even with amplifier is not strong enough to use a gas tube or bulb.
It is meant as a contact pad device, and for that the amplifier gives enough power, because there is minimal loss of power if it is directly aplied to the body.

Hi Rob.

I did mention that you would also need an amplifier plus other attachments to use the PC version Generator.

An example would be that someone trying to save a few dollars could buy the SR-4 10 watt Amplifier alone(the one that you buy with the GB-4000) and the other attachments to basically create yor own version of the complete GB-4000 using the FreX for the programming, just a thought :smile:

Kind regards

PS: I have just sent a bank transfer today for the GB-4000, SR-4, and attachments. My wallet is now a few thousand dollars lighter :cry: I also included the IRx Photon Wand LED light for topical (first aid) treatments in my order.


Thanks heaps to all of you that have contributed to my research, either directly or through your previous posts:love:

Hi Annie,

Real cute Avarta :grin:

Kind regards

Thanks Hans! :wink:
BTW: That new look was achieved using my Microcurrent Facelifting machine and not my Freq. Generator. :lol:
@ :grin:

Hans,

I only own one machine, the GB-4000. I would like to get one of Bruce Stenulsons machines also. The only reason is because different machines have different delivery methods, power settings, and other variations that may produce different results. I would still use my GB as the function generator since it does about everything you could want unless you want to run a sawtooth wave form. Then you could use a computer generated wave form for that.

Other than that, I have no need for any more Rife machines. Just need a few extra thousand dollars. Always seem to need that. Oh, maybe I would need a MWO, Beck blood electrifier,microcurrent machine........................

Dan Bergman

Hi Daniel,

When I receive my GB-4000/SR-4, I will be using this device for treating my Mother, I only downloaded the FreX program to get an insight to this type of technology, I have/had no intention of using the FreX for treatment, only for research.:smile:

My Mother has "non-small cell carcinoma cancer" (T2) that is constricting her Primary Bronchi, the cancer is in the lung tissue and at this stage has not yet perforated the Primary Bronchi.

Does the manual for the GB-4000/SR-4 give adequate information for this treatment (frequencies/duration/times) etc, or will I need to obtain more information from other sources.:neutral:

Kind regards

I do not see any instructions that are specific to that particular type of cancer. It is fairly detailed as to how long to run in the beginning and warnings. It basically says start with short durations and build up while monitoring reactions. There are quite a few cancer frequencies listed.
I would check it against the CAFL and NCFL. There could be more there.

I certainly would gather all of the information you can since there is no specific protocol that I know of. I know that there are others here with some experience with cancer. Hopefully they can shed some light on the subject.

I would think finding the specific working frequency would be the most difficult part. I would try to find some early in the process by running sweeps in the range of the listed frequencies and hopefully some sensation will be felt. I do this for Lyme and I have found that quite often the listed frequency is slightly higher than the one that seems to cause a reaction.

Good Luck

Dan Bergman

Hi Dan, :smile:

One of the biggest problems on this Forum is that I havn't yet found an individual section pertaining to cancer of the lung, further more I have read hundreds of posts and none of them (at least not obvious) relate to lung cancer or have been posted by people treating lung cancer.:sad:

:idea: :idea: :idea:
Me thinks there should be an (optional) entry in the left-hand section under one's Avarta that mentions what type illness they are treating this would help everyone greatly when reading someone's post.
:idea: :idea: :idea:

Kind regards

Have replied a few times regarding success with Bare/ Rife machine on person diagnosed with terminal cancer and given maximum one year to live with treatment, the diagnose was last August and the last MRI scan was two weeks ago which showed eight very small spots remaining out of 18 large ones, two of which were very large, one in the throat ( hard to swallow and the other on the side of the neck ) , the advice was to keep up the treatment as it appeared to be working(doctor) patient is in very good health and has not missed a days work (59 years old) not taking medication of any kind it all appears to be in finding the right number, do not believe that the book or someone else has the right number you may have to spend some time on each frequency ( 100 sec minimum) to feel or see a reaction.

Terry C

Hi Terry, :smile:

So what you are telling me is that you know when you have the right frequency by the fact the person has a reaction at the site of the cancer (during treatment). If so does this happen on the very first treatment if the right frequency is achieved :?: .

Kind regards:smile:

Hi Hans,

Sort of, but it took nearly a month to find a frequency that worked, most of the cancer frequencies that are used 2008,2128 etc there was a reaction but I felt that there should have been more ( based on previous use) and searched for a frequency that produced more of a reaction and found that to be 666 in this case, 15 min at this freq actually, the cancer in the throat burst and caused the patient to be ill from both ends within 3 hrs, there was an MRI three days later and the lump had disappeared, what was left was a very sore throat for a few days, tests indicated that the remains of the burst were dead, all were surprised.

Terry C

Hi Terry, :smile:

You used a Bare/Rife machine for this 666 Hz treatment, is that correct :?: , how does this compare with the GB-4000/SR-4 that I am buying, will it also work with this one.

Kind regards

Hi Hans,
I do not have a great deal of knowledge of the GB4000 but understand it to a frequency generator, I can only presume that it has the ability to be programmed to also any frequency, the Bare /Rife is a plasma device and the frequency is via a Genyl card in a computer which seems to work well, the point that I was trying to make is that not all cancers are the same and there could be hundreds of frequencies other than the ones suggested on the lists available this could be caused by a number of factors that we know little about, without the aid of something to identify the right one (microscope) we are bushranging to a large degree and it is down to operator skill and a lot of luck to have a direct hit.

Terry C

Hi Terry, :smile:

I do believe that there are some differerences in the frequencies that are used between a beam device and a pad device, I may be wrong about this but I have somefrequency specs that I downloaded a couple of weeks ago and some refer to "beam" and others to "pad". I haven't had time to study and cross-reference them yet.

You mentioned the frequency 666 Hz, ( :twisted: ) this one seems to pop up quite a lot, also used in Pain Manegment.

2128 Hz also comes in to play quite a lot for cancer treatment but I think that this is one of Rife's original frequencies.

Kind regards :smile:

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2128 Hz also comes in to play quite a lot for cancer treatment but I think that this is one of Rife's original frequencies.

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This is not an original Rife frequency, it is an original Hoyland harmonic, and is divided by ten for use with Crane instruments.
The GB4000 is the only pad device that work with an RF carrier.

Rife divided cancers in 2 major chapters, BX, BY virus could cause it. Sarcoma and Carcinoma cancers that is what he looked for, and that could be anywhere in the body. This is why he never made a difference in lung or breast cancer, but he did look for BX or BY.

The freqencies for cancer in the list that comes with a GB4000 are the Rife high frequencies, the hoyland frequencies and the Crane frequencies.

The GB4000 may be build because of what Rife told Crane, and what can be read in the book by barry lynes The Cancer Cure That Worked.

Rob

The tube (beam) models generate the same as the GB4000, a beam has a lot of power loss in the air. This is why direct aplication with a lower power should do the same as a beam with high power.
Models that work with RF carrier are Rife/Hoyland based, and the other models are Craner audio devices.

Hi Rob,

The GB4000 is not the only pad device that generates a carrier. The F125, F165 and F170 have mulitple channels and one of them can be used as an RF carrier.

Also, the FDS signal processor can be used with Frex (running on your PC) to generate clean square waves. I've head of fantastic results using Frex.

And this device also generates an RF carrier (only up to 350kHz, but according to reports this is working very well, maybe as good as the GB4000).

I've measured the frequencies using Frex and they are well within 1Hz up into the kHz range (on several PCs). This is much better than 1% accuracy and therefor fine for Rifing.

So for those on a tight budget there are cheap, effective alternatives

Dear Bill,

You are absolutely right!
But it can be done cheaper than frex (wich is share ware and not free.
I still have a PC with Blaster5 for connection to any amplifier.
But I studied hard on the Rife subject, and I have reason to doubt any machine or program based on the CAFL.
Once you have money to buy I would chose a GB 4000 over a Global wellness. If I did not have to travel that much I would have had a ray tube model, but the best alternative in my opinion is as you may know by noiw, the GB4000.
I know the F models, but for most people the programming is an issue, and stand allone F models lack in power, so you need a good amplifier=money.
The "F models are not cheap btw.

Rob

I think I posted enough on how to build a machine if you are pennyless, but if you save and want to try anything:
The GB4000 is the simplest to operate device with a carrier wave, and with the click of a button it is a Crane Audio device! But personally I think Rife and Hoyland were closer to the truth than Crane ever could come. This knowledge is the reason for my choice.

I've heard good things about the GB4000 and how easy it is to operate. For those that can afford one I certainly recommend it.

As far as the free Rife programs for PC, they don't have a lot of features. Such as sweeps, wobble, the ability to click on almost any condition (in the menu) and choose from mulitple frequency sets and run them.

Not everyone that can't afford the best equipment is pennyless. A high end Rife program such as Frex is a great alternative and very affordable. And the frequency sets are extremely configurable on the fly.

I always ask people what their budget is and then recommend the best Rife equipment they can afford. The GB4000 is definately high on the list (as is a good EMEM device).

Hi Guys, :smile:

I am due to receive my Rife equipment (GB-4000/SR-4) shortly and I now have a very important question to ask.

:?:
Is there an "optimum" time of the day for the treatment/use of the Rife machine.


I am looking for an direct answer that does not drift into other areas of discussion such as drinking water, immune system cleansing etc.

Kind regards :smile:

Hi Hans:

It is a personal opinion that the optimal time is when it’s most convenient to your respective schedule with your Mom.

Rife machines do not work better or worse at different times of the day (unless you are in India) – Bodies do.

For lung cancer, select the time of day when the lungs shelter the maximal body energy – Googling “acupuncture” & also “lungs”, you will discover that 2-hour timeframe. I would use its median as target.

Also depending on one’s astrological ascendant, it corresponds to the physical body, so the 2 hour period governing one’s ascendant would be a time when physical body therapies are most appropriate & bear the greatest chance of yielding success..

Another traditional science involving magnetism & body polarities is yoga - Specifically I am referring to yoga’s ida, pingala, & sushumna etheric channels corresponding to the American Cancer Society’s symbol, the caduceus - Bodywise, it looks 100% like a spinal column.

A 90 degree spinal rotation displays 2 sine waves, 180 degrees out of phase, and the sushumna (zero or the y-axis after rotation).

Incorporating an “As Above/So Below” tenet, there are two time periods daily when the ida & pingala naturally balance into the sushumna. Without explanation, let me just state that we are more familiar denoting these times as “dusk” & “dawn” – During these periods, the body’s ethereal centers are more accessible.…

So those are the “best guess” Rife times, but their degree of gain may be mathematically insignificant…

God Bless As Always,

Frank

If you first stick with the fabric settings you will see results (from more pain, herx to feeling a bit better or pain to no pain)
The fabric setting is 5 minutes per 8 frequencies low or 2 frequencies high.
Using only the GB4000 on RF (without amplifier) over hand and footplates can be hard, if you do it full power, the machine chokes on some frequencies.
The GB as stand allone with RF function is however very suitable for local use on scin dissorders or in other local treatment.
If you only want to use low frequencies like the Crane and CAFL frequencies, you can not use the 10W amp but the output of the GB is very strong!
I use to use this setting for muscle pain and less serious things.
Most of the time I use the GB with Amp over the whole body, but in cases of intestinal problems and cleanings I use the foot pads over the treatment area front back, like liver etc.
You best use the wet cloth covers, if you do not, there is a chance for little burnings!
So good conduction over the pads is a pre.

In have only been experimenting so far with the duty cycle, it seem that Rife High frequencies can be better run with a duty cycle of 50% instead of the fabric setting of 90% (wich works best for all low frequencies.

Earleir tests of John Crane have proven that even Crane frequencies can be effective, the builders of the Crane Audio device however did fabric a bad product, and this may be the main reason why the Crane frequencies work less good or not at all.

There has been a very unfair frequency trade, so that effective frequencies were sold to the highest bidder. Even the inventor of the FSCAN models was a victom of that traders, but also had done his homework very bad: There are no low Rife frequencies.

Once you have the universal frequency list that comes with the GB, it will get clear that the builders must almost have known Rife or real Rife asociates.

Even if you look very hard, you will not be able to discover but only a few original Rife frequencies, all calculated down to Herz, while Rife only used cycles per seccond. Some notes that are found contain more that 3 differend kinds of handwriting, so even if it were original Rife notes, what of the 3 hands was from the real Rife?

I still think (after a study from 1997-2003) that the GB4000 is an affordable machine that even Rife may have aproved (or build).

I have no vega test, no microscope and lack a lot to make my own diagnose, so I have to rely on the information that people give me.
If you treat a local strep infection with staph frequencies the effect can be a lot less than expected.
But in most cases that the GB4000 has no effect, the information and diagnose are wrong!

I received an attachment with interesting information to use the gate option with the curing cancer frequencies. On the other hand I have a problem with it, the gate values are 2008 and 2128 Hz and these are Crane related, and therefore not my first choice. We have no practice that get 10 cancer patients a day.

The maximum time I have used for treatment with the GB is 30 minutes, but that is even for a GB doing lets say 24 frequencies 1 and a half hour.
In some cases you have to treat long and often before you see results, but that is because 10 W is a lot less than the original power used by Rife.
It depend on age and condition to choose a daily or once in 3 day schedule.
On acute infections (most intestine) I go on untill I see relief, and repeat the sets that give instant relief, untill most of the sympthoms are gone (like pain nausea diarea etc).

With a choice of over 800 conditions, without a good diagnose, working with a GB can still feel like a needle in a haystack.

Rob

Hi Frank, :smile:

Thankyou for that infomation but "dawn" is not going to be an option for my Mother, she has been retired for many years now and I know for a fact that she dosn't get up untill around 8:30 am these days. I would have to imagine a time just before or after lunch (don't know if full or empty stomach (food not water) has any significance regarding treatment) I do know that she will need to drink a couple of litres of water before treatment starts and more water after treatment. I'll be lucky if I can get her to drink just a couple of glasses of water in any one day :smile:

Kind regards

According to the research group in China headed by Dr. Ian MacLeod, the besdt times for Rife treatments (or at least his kind of frequency treatments) is first thing in the morning before eating anything, and last thing at night at least 3 hours after dinner.

Sara

Hi Sara, :smile:

Thankyou for that information. do you have any more info on Dr MacLeod, maybe a website :?: that I could visit.

Kind regards :grin:

Their project is kept rather quiet as it is government funded there. There is no website. that's the information I got from him directly. He is not on this forum.

Sara

Hi Sara, :smile:

It is great that their research is recognised by their Govt. but a real pity for myself and others, not being able to access more information.

But hey, thanks again for what you have shared with me Sara.:wink:

Kind regards

Hi All, :smile:

:?:
Can anyone tell me what the optimum time is for each frequency when you are performing an initial scan to find the ideal frequencies


Kind regards

3 seconds at a minimum. 10 sec/Hz is even better since many hits are felt 1 to 2 Hz away, so that means that there are 30 to 50 seconds to feel the frequency. Also, running 10 sec/Hz often proves therapeutic in itself. -- turf

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Can anyone tell me what the optimum time is for each frequency when you are performing an initial scan to find the ideal frequencies

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Hi Brian, :smile:

Thanks for the reply but I am alittle confused by your answer :@@:

Do you mean 10 seconds for each frequency or 30 - 50 seconds EG;

1604Hz - 10 sec or 30 sec or 50 sec
2008Hz - 10 sec or 30 sec or 50 dec
2128Hz - 10 sec or 30 sec or 50 sec

or are you talking about sweeping each side of primary frequencies :?:

I am still a little new to this idea of Scanning, you may need to explain in more detail please Brian

Kind regards

I use the terms scan and sweep interchangeably: running a range such as from 300 - 800 or 2000 - 2600 Hz by 1 Hz to find new frequencies. But I now see you mean running a non-sequential frequency set for a condition. This is hard to say. 10 seconds per frequency is still a good period if running through a large number of them since most of the time a hit can be felt this quickly, although sometimes people don't feel anything for 1, 2, or 3 minutes, and sometimes longer, into the frequency. -- turf

Hi Brian, :smile: (Turf)

Thankyou very much, this explaination makes it much clearer but scanning seems rather problematic if the effect may not be noticed straight a way.

Thus, I could in effect use 48 frequencies @ 10 sec each over an 8 min. period, get a response on the second-last frequency, believing it to be the magic number, when in fact it could have been one of the earlier ones in the sequence. :frown:

So then how can scanning be effective unless you only try one frequency at a time, every 30 mins. or so :?:

Kind regards

Hi Hans,

A sweep can be effective even if you never know exactly which frequencies were needed. Some people run a broad sweep, such as 300 - 3,000Hz in 1Hz steps. You can set the duration for each step at 1 second (as example).

This would equal a total of 2700 seconds or 45 minutes. This range covers most of the common frequencies used, so it's likely that in many cases you would get results (although in some cases the duration for each step may need to be longer).

Of course you can run the sweep more than once if needed.

Hi Bil, :smile:

Many thanks for your answer but my main concern still is as I posted in my previous message.

Just how affective is scanning if there is a posible delay in the response to any one particular frequency, you would never know which frequency the patient responed to. This could take a very long time and terminal patients don't often have this privalige.

Kind regards

Hans,

I think you are under the impression that a person could have run one good effective frequency earlier and feel it later when running a noneffective one. I believe that you will ether feel it at the time it is running or not at all. In another words if 666 is an effective cancer killing frequency and you run it for 30 seconds and nothing is felt then nothing will be felt later either. You may have to run it longer for a sensation to be felt but it will not produce a sensation after the fact. At least I have never heard of that happening or experienced it personally.

If you are doing a sweep which is quite easy with the GB, just note the displayed frequency if something is felt. Then narrow your sweep to a few Hz below and above the noted frequency and sweep again to home in on the actual frequency felt and to confirm the "hit". It is not a perfect system but better than none at all.

If you sweep around the listed cancer frequencies this should make the search much faster. You will have to builds on your own experience since you are in effect a pioneer whenever you use these devices to treat something this difficult. It is very much a treatment that involves the response of the person being treated. Once you learn the individuals responses and what duration of time produces a response you can use that as a guideline for future reference.

I do not envy the position you are in treating such a serious condition. But I am glad you are so diligent in your research. I just wish there was some real good solid protocol available for you. But cancer has been a tough nut to crack for any treatment. Frequency treatments are no exception.

Best Regards

Dan Bergman

Hi Dan, :smile:

Thankyou for your response. I know that this is not an exact science and a lot of time is spent on trying to find the right frequencies, I also appreciate that many other people in similar circunstances have spent a great deal of time looking for the right frequencies, some with success and some without. I supose I am trying to narrow the "waste-time" as I am not sure how much time I have with my Mother to be able to help.

My GB-4000/SR-4 has left the states and is now on its way over here. I expect delivery in a few days. I have quit my job and next Friday I will be moving 300 Klms south to be with her for this treatment, for however long it takes.

In between packing it is great to know that all of you are out there trying to help and this is of great comfort to us.

I have set-up a file on my PC and every detail of the treatment starting from day 1 will be recorded to enable me to share the results with others.

Kind regards:smile:

[reply=Byron Robinson]
I've used 30/45 seconds scans on my wife (who has metastatic breast cancer) and have documented that she noticed a sensation within 20-seconds on most of the frequencies termed 'hits' but, on some frequencies, of longer scan periods (90-seconds), she noticed a sensation after 60 seconds has expired. However, I have also noted that on a pulse frequency of 37Hz the time of initial sensation is much shorter.

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Hans,

I think you are under the impression that a person could have run one good effective frequency earlier and feel it later when running a noneffective one. I believe that you will ether feel it at the time it is running or not at all. In another words if 666 is an effective cancer killing frequency and you run it for 30 seconds and nothing is felt then nothing will be felt later either. You may have to run it longer for a sensation to be felt but it will not produce a sensation after the fact. At least I have never heard of that happening or experienced it personally.

If you are doing a sweep which is quite easy with the GB, just note the displayed frequency if something is felt. Then narrow your sweep to a few Hz below and above the noted frequency and sweep again to home in on the actual frequency felt and to confirm the "hit". It is not a perfect system but better than none at all.

If you sweep around the listed cancer frequencies this should make the search much faster. You will have to builds on your own experience since you are in effect a pioneer whenever you use these devices to treat something this difficult. It is very much a treatment that involves the response of the person being treated. Once you learn the individuals responses and what duration of time produces a response you can use that as a guideline for future reference.

I do not envy the position you are in treating such a serious condition. But I am glad you are so diligent in your research. I just wish there was some real good solid protocol available for you. But cancer has been a tough nut to crack for any treatment. Frequency treatments are no exception.

Best Regards

Dan Bergman

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[reply=Byron Robinson]
I've used 30/45 seconds scans on my wife (who has metastatic breast cancer) and have documented that she noticed a sensation within 20-seconds on most of the frequencies termed 'hits' but, on some frequencies, of longer scan periods (90-seconds), she noticed a sensation after 60 seconds has expired. However, I have also noted that on a pulse frequency of 37Hz the time of initial sensation is much shorter.

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Hi Byron,

My husband, Glyn Holdich, is a new member to the forum. He's read your entry indicating that your wife has metastatic breast cancer. I've also got metastatic breast cancer that has gone to my bones. You've indicated that you're using Rife treatment on your wife. May I ask whether you've had any success and if so, are you able to provide any details of the machine you've used and the specifics of the treatments you've given her? We're looking to use a Rife machine, but as I'm sure you aware there are many different versions out there and it's a challenge just knowing which to try and worrying also, since some can even make things worse.
Kind Regards,
Lesley Holdich

Rife machines as we know them today do not cure disease including cancer. What they do, however, is to break up the structures of the disease pathogens by taking advantage of the common characteristic of viruses, bacteria and fungi in that the cell walls (ie., membranes) become crystallized rather than remaining pliable. Resonant frequencies mechanically synchronize with the triangular shapes specific to each disease pathogen and sets up a standing wave within the mass of the structure which causes an expansion of the intracellular fluids which subsequently rupture the protective coating that holds the structure together. Rife type machines as we know them today are of great value to be sure, however, in order to rid the body of the disease the milieu must be changed to a pH condition that is hostile to the organism. Diet and hygiene habits are critical factors in getting rid of any disease. A machine alone is not enough.

Hi Jim My uncle has acute leukemia myelodysplastic syndrome. He had two chemo treatments in ten weeks kept at the hospital in isolation. They let him go home last thursday telling him that he may not be here by christmas and that their is nothing to do. Please can you help us out with whatever research you have. I have found natural supplements to build up his immune system which was given to me by someone who has had lung cancer and he claims it truly helped him. I am also giving my uncle a Beetle nebulizer inhaler machine with a liquid (714x) is inhaled with this machine and is also suppose to help build the immune system. Now on Friday (again through a friend) he will be seeing this person who has the "PERL VIOLETWAVE MACHINE" to treat my uncle. This man helped my friend who has the lyme disease and she was so bad she ended up in a wheel chair and had to give up her kids to her x husband because she could no longer take care of them. Today she is walking back to work and gets her children every weekend. Please help us with any advice possible. God bless you and all.

Linda

Hi Linda,

Please feel free to call me this Saturday or Sunday afternoon or evening. 847-740-6864.

Jim

I finely got back on the internet. When I was able to get to my firends place to get the frequency's and write then down he had tossed the books with all the information as he said so many people were coming to use his machine is was running all day long and sometimes late in the evenings. I can tell you this that the system is a rife/bare tube type and it puts out between 140 to 145 watts of power. Drink lots of water before you start the treatments and then start in on a gallon of water when you start the treatment and drink the whole gallon of water before you go to bed and so far all the people that use his machine had had no side effects that I know of. It will cost less than $2000 USD to build one more like around $1600. Also no metal on you no watches, rings etc. and you sit on a plastic chair or couch or wooden chair
I can only say the frequency's were taken from the CAFL list
I don't recommend MFJ products for this system!
Bill

This has been a fascinating thread.

Thank you so much to everyone who contributed from their experiences.

I myself am just beginning my exploration in this area.

Does anyone know how this research and battle with cancer turned out?

Hello Charles,

Is there a device to eliminate e-smog?

Wim

No, such a device does not exist.

However, some nasty VLF frequencies in the mains electricity net can be eliminatee by some filters, but first the amount of dirt must be measured.

Elektrosmog attacks the body, and only people with a damaged immune system are prone to these attacks.

Therefore, the best thing to do is reinforcing the immune system.
There are a number of things to do here.

With a R.I.F.E. machine, a frequency of 99.5 and 657 Hz are good for that.

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I use the terms scan and sweep interchangeably: running a range such as from 300 - 800 or 2000 - 2600 Hz by 1 Hz to find new frequencies. But I now see you mean running a non-sequential frequency set for a condition. This is hard to say. 10 seconds per frequency is still a good period if running through a large number of them since most of the time a hit can be felt this quickly, although sometimes people don't feel anything for 1, 2, or 3 minutes, and sometimes longer, into the frequency. -- turf

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Brian McInturff "I use the terms scan and sweep interchangeably: running a range such as from 300 - 800 or 2000 - 2600 Hz by 1 Hz to find new frequencies. But I now see you mean running a non-sequential frequency set for a condition. This is hard to say etc."

Brian my name is Moshe Kerr I live in Israel and am a Talmudic Rabbi. I am in the process of bringing a Rife GB4000 with amp to Israel. Having read some of the questions and responses on this post I thought a proper introduction would be to discuss an attempt to define the nature of disease. I am clearly not an expert on Rife and frequencies b/c I have yet to ever use a machine. But I have given a nickel's worth of thought upon healing.

This particular blog asks: Can a Rife machine cure cancer? My immediate response centers upon the obvious: just as a Rife machine did not invite the cancer attack, in similar fashion it lacks the ability to "impose" a Road Map Peace Plan upon the warring factions within the body. Human disease and political conflicts among societies, I believe share certain similarities which adds a certain depth in attempting to investigate complex problems; and clear as the sun in the sky "Caner" qualifies as a complex conflict within the body.

The human body has its own defense systems and the amazing ability to repair damage. A disease damages the body, a terminal disease occurs when the body can no longer cope or repair damaged tissue to the point where the essential functions of life cease to exist and death occurs. Being a Talmudic Rabbi, my training causes me to define life as Soul. It's a substance form relationship, the physical body serving as the "forms" through which the "Soul" expresses life in this world.

The Rife Machine truly interests me, b/c of it's employment of radio frequencies. The popular book Harry Potter, he whose Name is never spoken, divided his "Soul" into 6 parts. This is a fascinating idea b/c it fits with Jewish tradition! A cube has 6 faces, salt forms cubes. Shine a light through a cube at the right angle and it will work like a prism and make a Star of David ie 2 interlocked triangles, the 6 lines transpose the 3D faces of the cube into a 2D double interlocking set of triangles! Salt functions as an absolute essential for life. A Torah sacrifice requires salt.

The Torah qualifies as a revelation of the Soul/life; Torah speaks in the language of man. And man employs metaphors to understand deep ideas. Hence the Torah compares "Life" unto Fire and Brit/(an alliance which joins different and opposing interests). Biblical translations call brit covenant, but it seems to me that translating languages distorts as much as it communicates. Hence I brought the prism reality of the 6 planes of a cube being "translated" unto the 6 lines of 2 interlocking triangles. Translating a 3 dimensional substance into a 2 dimensional form creates huge distortions of reality. This represent the most clear example that I have yet to communicate which distinguishes between substance and form. Healing requires a philisophical mind.

And this perception causes me to challenge limiting Rife scholarship and research unto simple frequencies as if such simplistic notions could solve immensely complex realities. Curing disease requires understanding the brit relationship between a frequency generator and the spiritual "substance" (which the Torah calls Nefesh). On a side point which might provide a bit of depth, a sacrifice makes a "k'para" unto the Nefesh through the dedication of the blood. K'para translators call atonement, but I'd prefer to avoid translations as much as possible. From an outside view, a sacrifice resembles a fine Sunday Bar BQ! But the substance/form relationship of the sacrifice centers upon the Nefesh dedicated upon the altar. The initial blood that shoots out of the cleanly cut jugular vein and aorta artery spews out of the wound from the power of the beating heart of the animal. This "blood" is called Nefesh blood. After the heart dies, it ceases to function, blood drains from the wound but this blood does not have the name Nefesh. It's the nefesh blood that's dedicated upon the altar. The Talmud understands prayer in this context. Specifically, (poor translation of the Talmud: The ambassador of a man possess the authority of the man who sends him. A more modern comparison being a man giving power of attorney unto his lawyer) The intent of prayer the Talmudic sages learned from the Torah worship of sacrifices: Sacrifices dedicate the substance of the Nefesh as found in the forms of the blood in like manner a person who prays must dedicate his/her soul unto the Brit Name. (Which like Harry Potter can not be pronounced). The standing prayer called "shemone-esray", has 19 parts 3 fixed parts in the beginning and 3 fixed parts at the end or 6 faces of the oath/brit nefesh. The 13 middle parts affix themselves unto the 13 attributes of the Elokim revealed unto Moshe at Sinai. Attributes being an incredibly bad translation for "middot".

Middot function as the interface between the Nefesh which exists beyond or more accurately "not limited" by the 3 dimensions of physical reality. Attributes by contrast focus, making a Rife comparison: upon particular frequencies. Once a person contemplates upon middot, such a philosopher has entered into the wisdom of healing other people. Wisdom and knowledge have a fundamental distinction. A person can know and study a trumpet, but becoming a musician with the physical trumpet requires the wisdom of "soul".

As said above, the Torah commands 6 yom tovim (poor translation: festivals) where it commands: do not appear before the face of Elokim empty. Meaning just as the Elokim 3 dimensional reality does not limit so too when a person approaches the face of the Elokim on the yom tov this person should dedicate a face of the nefesh soul! But even more holy(a dedicated substance) than the yom tovim, shabbot. What represents the wisdom of this dedicated 7th soul? Now things start to get to the point of this blog and really cool, play that trumpet man, cuss I like my jazz HOT!

Human health as a direct correlation with human emotions. There exists buckets and loads of theories afoot, but I give you a Jewish theory that's in my book Talmud Moderny. Avraham 13 years after cutting a nefesh brit performed an operation upon his zyan; a incredibly bad translation being "penis". The letter zyan is the 7th letter in the aleph-bet/"alphabet". King David build the 1st Temple upon "Zion". See how translating deep ideas into other languages just distorts the communicated wisdom out of all proportions?

Zion represents the 7th face of the soul, which the UN calls racism! Zionism studies the emotional behavior of bnai brit. If your not smiling now stop and smile, the worst diseases occur when people take themselves tooo seriously!
The interface between the soul and physical body Talmud Torah expresses through the language of heart and soul. The heart houses the 2 yazirot; a worse translation the good and bad inclinations. Yazir means a former or shaper. The building blocks of the human yazir being tohor and tumah middot. I am not even going to bother translating these 2 fundamental concepts of wisdom. The Torah calls the yazir "very good". Sacrifices require water. The chemical structure of water being H2O, hydrogen and oxygen. Hydrogen compares unto the tumah middot of the yazir haRa ie a poison and oxygen compares unto the tohor middot of the yazir haTov ie a necessity of life. Combine the 2 and you get water or to quote the Torah "very good". This maturing of middot the Talmud calls a developing the spirituality of derech eretz. Derech eretz comes before the Torah! It's comparable to a Royal King who stops to visit you in your home and farts, eats his slimy buggers slurping them down like spaghetti! His majesty might be king but he surely most definitely is NOT Royal! Religious people who lack emotional development/derech eretz, compare to such a king visiting your or my home! The Talmud calls such crude people, even though they keep all the commandments of the Torah - am ha aretz. The Torah teaches that a mamzer, the off spring of a incestuous sexual union, could never join the bnai brit community even after 10 generations! The Talmud teaches a contempt definition of am ha aretz as the obligation to give honor to a mamzer Torah authority over and above a High Priest(image the Pope) am ha aretz!

Where to emotions come from? By the way I learn, the 10 internal organs of the body. I am highly influenced by the wisdom of Jin Shin Jyutsu as Japanese healing wisdom developed following the 2nd world war. This wisdom has strong linkages unto chinese acupuncture points/frequencies. The learning follows a prat/clall approach or "specific/general". The individual being the individual and the solar system with its 10 "planets" representing the general. And Rife radio wave frequencies functioning as the sod mishutoff or common denominator.

The brain stem orchestrates through the spinal column radio antena, the middot combinations the 10 internal organs emotional production; the brain stem orchestrates and organizes these emotional middot and combines them making new and different emotions through their primary tohor/tuma middot compounds (picture letters forming words which communicate ideas)! Now we approach the Zion nefesh. Through Divine Names this gets into heavy kabbalah sorry, a person can cut a brit between the middot, better translation measurements of the individual or prat unto the middot gravitational middot relationship between the 10 mazelot of the Milky Way and create thereby a living Zion soul!

Disease occurs when a tissue goes "out of context" with the surrounding tissue. I believe the Rife frequency devises could be employed with greater effectiveness if researchers explored putting the middot of the prat individual back in context with the middot of the 10 mazelot clall. I have affixed and mapped out 26 middot points within the human body and linked them unto the 10 major internal organs. I oppose the Chinese emphasis upon the gall bladder and replace it with an emphasis upon the pancreas. I speculate that the GB 4000 should be used together with a Rife Bare tube machine. Because the Zion nefesh requires a brit context relationship between the prat and the clall.

The problem with a gallon of water is the DILUTION of the blood cells resulting in dizziness and faintness, since there is a decrease in the amount of oxygen being circulated in the thinned blood.

Certainly a half of gallon of fluids would be acceptabel, but not all at once. Sipping Some before and after the sessions would be indicated, since many people do not get enough fluids in general.

Look up hyperhydration.

The problem with a gallon of water is the DILUTION of the blood cells resulting in dizziness and faintness, since there is a decrease in the amount of oxygen being circulated in the thinned blood.

Certainly a half of gallon of fluids would be acceptable, but not all at once. Sipping Some before and after the sessions would be indicated, since many people do not get enough fluids in general.

Look up hyperhydration.

I have been using the minimum time of 5 minute the GB-4000 Automatically programs on entering Auto Codes, and up to 15-20 minues per group of 8 frequencies on followup sessions. Most often a 'hit' or reaction can be felt after and with the slighly longer times.

Not all Auto Codes produce the same reactions. Therefore a number of different sets os Auto Codes are used per sessions of 1-3 hours.
But I have a stronger structure and feel stronger sessions are needed.
For example, I felt the Detox Box was too 'weak' for me.

If I feel a stronger reaction with a feeling of sensitivity or even mild soreness occurs after, I skip a day or two. The timing of a days sessions are often determined with intuition/experience and plays a role in the timing per session.

Interesting, I met a very bright Chinese couple in their 80's here. The husband looked ashen grey and laid in bed sleeping most of the time with multiple serious problems and what I felt was inadequate medical treatment. While the wife was using a variety of nutritional supplements based on her extensive reading, which I am totally familiar with after many years of experience, he was not getting some important support. For example, he had serious lung congestion and coughing extensive aounts of mucous, but was RXed antihistimines and decongestants, which I felt were counter productive. No wonder he looked like death warmed over.

With tweaking of his supplement program and with some dietary changes he has made major improvements. First, a rosy color was visible facially, and now he has a golden glow. Also, standing up straighter, walking faster, even talking more, and especially noteworthy waking up earlier.

Most interesting, when we met I learned that she had a Rife unit for about a year, that she never used. I was curious what it was and offered to read the ProWave manual and explain how it worked. A well made in America unit, but simple to use at too high of a price. Cost more then the GB! It has been used for several months now and the results are most evident, as I stated above. Though it is weaker then the GB-4000, it is simple to use with easy one button programming. She uses a variety of the Auto Coes as she feels are indicated.:idea:

hi, Iam wondering where did we get 50.000 people in this forum??I just saw about 50000 people view this post. that is amazing.

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hi, Iam wondering where did we get 50.000 people in this forum??I just saw about 50000 people view this post. that is amazing.

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As this thread is in a public section (can be read by non-members), that is why there are so many views.

Public sections have the term "(Public)" in their description and include the "Forum Announcements", "Rife FAQ" (this section), "Forum Polls", "For Sale" and "To Buy" sections.

All other sections can be read by members only.

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Originally Posted by Peter Walker

Rife claimed that his original machines cured cancer. We have no reason at the present time to doubt this claim but it has not been absolutely proven. We don't know exactly how the original machines worked and so the modern machines probably don't work in exactly the same way. Some modern machines have been shown to have been useful in the treatment of some cancer patients but it would be misleading to claim that they represent an absolute cure for cancer.

In general it would be fair to say that Rife type machines have been extremely useful in the control and management of many diseases including many serious ones that haven't responded to conventional treatment but it would be wrong to say that these machines in their present form are a cure for any specific disease.

The Hungarian Company OncoTherm have done several clinical studies in Europe on treating cancer with their Oncotherapy device which uses a Rife frequency modulation. These trials did show a significant improvment in health and a reduction in tumour size.

All serious Rife researchers recommend that you should seek professional medical advice before considering any form of medical treatment with a Rife type machine.

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I think it is fair (and accurate) to say "Yes - the machine can get rid of cancer (as opposed to cure) IF you have the correct frequency of the particular cancer that you are trying to eliminate." How you ensure that you have the correct frequency is the trick that I don't have an answer to.

It is important also, to realise that cancer is a symptom and if you don't take care of whatever caused the cancer (stress, poor diet, toxins, candida... whatever) then it will almost certainly return.

I have been using a frequency generator (Rife machine) for several months for 2 small malignant tumors in one breast. They have diminished in size to the point that we can't feel them any more, even though a follow-up biopsy indi-
cates that there are still viable cancer cells at the sites. I am convinced that continuing the use of this healing device would eliminate all cancer cells at some point in time. My surgeon has been doing frequent breast exams, and
he is afraid to continue, so I have agreed to a lumpectomy. However, if any-one can dissuade me of this, because he/she has had the experience of total
healing - no cancer cells at site - I would appreciate it, because my husband and I don't know if we're making the right decision. Judith Dew

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I would Like to put my two cents in as well. First of all I was looking for a machine 2002 2003 and found the site of the B-3 ultimate rife and also found the first balanced explanation of all the aspects of the Rife story pad plasma pros cons etc. without any bias! Just the facts, no one had been as informative up to this point. Mr. Garff has shown more true concern that any one else that I have looked into and talked to. The GB4000 is a benchmark that everyone will eventually have to honor.

I for one am tired of the bitching about price for something that can free anyone who wants from all disease! Most of you are using a computer that costs more than the price of the BG4000!!

I have been using this machine and have had nothing but great results!!

and I don't Dick around when it comes to finding the real thing!!!

I guess you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink
Robert

Did it occur to anyone that someone has rediscovered the Rife Effect????

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I agree totally with you - I am an (ex) radar, radio, and audio technician/designer and I did at least two years of research before buying the GB4000. A friend of mine who is a scientist and a healer has traditionally been using laser systems (of his own design) with incredible success in curing cancer but he was so excited with the GB4000 that he bought two. I believe he uses them more than his laser system now and is still curing cancer of varied types. My recommendation to anyone attempting this however is that you try putting your body in an alkaline state as well (1Tspn of baking soda a day will usually do that) and take at least five drops of FOOD GRADE (don't use anything else!!) hydrogen peroxide once or twice a day. Cancer supposedly can't survive in an alkaline environment, and cancer cells (I understand) don't like oxygen. There are many additional things that you can do but this is a great place to start.

If there is anyone out there in any country who has cured any kind of cancer with rife and natural therapies please let me know. A lady who is like family already, wants to know this. She is considering rife and natural therapies if she can only talk to someone who has successfully treated this way. I am happy to pay for any call from any country. Please contact me so I can set up a call with her and pay for it.

I have been doing all the recommended protocols, including using a frequency
generator (Rife) since last summer. A recent biopsy indicates that I still have
viable cancer cells at the site of the tumor, but the malignancy is virtually
undetectable by palpation. I continue to get the information I need through
the Forum, so this is a long, ongoing process, but I could help from a lay-
woman's point of view. There are products through companies that offer
alternative approaches to healing the body as well as killing the cancer. If
you would like to know what I have done, I would be more than willing to
help. My phone is: 831 274 2303. Email: jdew790@msn.com.
I live in Santa Cruz, CA, and I intend to be following the changes I've made to my
diet, PH, and daily detoxing for the rest of my life. I'm sure you will be re-
ceiving professional guidance from other members of the Forum as well, but
sometimes it's helpful to talk to someone who has found his/her way through
networking and researching via the time-consuming way. Judith Dew

[QUOTE=Hans Gimpelj;6526]Hi Terry, :smile:

I do believe that there are some differerences in the frequencies that are used between a beam device and a pad device, I may be wrong about this but I have somefrequency specs that I downloaded a couple of weeks ago and some refer to "beam" and others to "pad". I haven't had time to study and cross-reference them yet.

You mentioned the frequency 666 Hz, ( :twisted: ) this one seems to pop up quite a lot, also used in Pain Manegment.

2128 Hz also comes in to play quite a lot for cancer treatment but I think that this is one of Rife's original frequencies.

Kind regards :smile:[/Hans I have been using the GB4000/SR-4 combination for over a year now and have had one cancer success (the only one I've had to work on) with a friend who was scheduled to have both kidneys removed. I am an electronics technician and also have strong spiritual healing capabilities (replaced ten inches [25Cm] of dead colon having been given a max of 7 days to live in 2005. Having studied multiple Rife machines ovr the past 20 years, I very happily chose the gb4000. The photon tube devices I really don't have a huge amount of faith in to be honest and a friend who has two - one of which cost 7 times the amount of the Gb4000 agrees with me. It is ALL about finding the right frequency and that is the biggest limitation of all of these machines. When you find it - it WORKS. I would NEVER rely on any ONE thing though - cancer is an environmental disease - it can't exist unless you provide the environment for it to do so and from my research, cancer (supposedly) cannot exist in an alkaline state. So as well as the GB4000 treatment, I had my friend take 1 teaspoon of baking soda a day to get his body into an alkaline state. Was it the combination, was it the GB4000, was it the baking soda? Who knows and who cares - all that matters is that the urgent surgery that he was scheduled for in March of this year has been postponed indefinitely and he is feeling better than he has in years.]

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You must have a frequency generator that produces a square wave with harmonics to be of any value. Dr Bare can tell you were to get a good one its approx $500+. Believe it will cost around $1500 to $2000 to build a good one.
God Bless
Bill

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Bill I only partially agree with you on this. Personally I believe the reason there are so many frequencies and why so much emphasis is placed on harmonics is because no one is really sure of the EXACTfrequencies that do the job. Harmonics are no different to any other frequency - they are just multiples and generally are weaker than the core frequency.
It is also the reason for the emphasis on power - if you are close but not exact in frequncy then with enough power you are going to do the job anyway. I totally agree with the use of square wave - not because of the harmonics generated but because it is an incredibly destructive waveform.
That's my two cents anyway and i speak from being an electronics technician - previously involved in electronic warfare in the military and via my ability to "see" energy in all things. So I get both sides of the spectrum - scientific and spiritual.
Thanks to all for the wonderful heartfelt intent in these messages.

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How many different auto programs can you run in one day? My husband has leukemia and there is one auto program for that and six other cancer programs that you're supposed to also run. Each program has several frequencies, which would probably take perhaps two hours to complete all programs. Should he just do one different code per day? How long can you stay on that machine at one time without any adverse reactions?

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Rhonda - I don't know if anyone has a "right" or "wrong answer to this unfortunately.
I have had a 100% success rate in curing cancer (with my one only patient haha) using the GB4000 and that was using the main unit only - I was not able to take the SRT-4 with me. I treated using auto codes 538 / 436 / 410 / 359 / 242 / 115 and i also ran the codes for candida albicans - apparently no cancer patient has been found who did not also have candida and it is assumed there is some connection there. I ran the codes for the standard 5 minutes - building to 20 minutes after the thrid treatment and moving to treat every day (I only had ten days before I had to return to Canada).
A friend who now has TWO Gb4000s says he is finding better results running only one or two frequencies at a time. What works is what counts and how the patient is feeling in the course of treatment is paramount. There's a lot of intuition required it seems.

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Hi Chris :wink:

I really did do my best to try and source that lady's true success story regarding treatment for her son's brain tumour (using Laetrile / Vit B17) but unfortunately without success. :oops: You try: www.curezone.com -which once gave a link to her personal website / blog (Something like Jenny's story :rolleyes: or Jenny's Blog?)

However, I managed to source the lady's case which I mentioned above ... as initially received via email in 2004:

"Regretfully, my uncle passed away. A week prior we bought some cesium
chloride from the States but it was too late, although we gave it to a very
sick lady riddled with cancer and with 1 week to live and she is now a
living testament. Within 4 weeks of treatment her stomach tumour reduced by 70% and her tests have not shown up any cancer to the amazement of all. We are keeping it hush as the medical profession does not approve."

I'd definitely be tempted to go the Cesium Chloride route, plus any others which RESONATE with you! Ask for divine guidance ... it's only a whisper away. :Angel: I personally believe that electrotherapy, be that Rife related or Dr. Clark's or any others, require some time at least, and much patience, and if time is supposedly crucial here ... :rolleyes:

Blessings,
@nnie:wink:

SEE more on Cesium Chloride here:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james14.htm :hihi:
http://www.royalrife.com/cesium.html
http://www.essense-of-life.com/info/cesium.htm
http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/cesium.html
http://www.cancer-coverup.com/fighte...um-science.htm

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Great advice Annie - I love the energy that you put into this. Another thing worth looking at is hydrogen peroxide (again to oxygenate the blood). In Europe ozone and/or hydrogen peroxide taken intrvenously has been creating great results for years.

Did you ultimately get a machine Hans? If not i can definitely guide you - if so - how has it worked out?
Rgds
Tom

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Hi guys, my name is Hans and I am intending to purchase a Rife machine to help my mother who has two cancerous tumors, the one that concerns us at the moment is the one that she has between her wind-pipe. and Sternum. It is causing her servere breathing difficulties as it is placing pressure onto her wind-pipe as its growing. Doctors were unable to sucsessfully obtain a biopsy via an endoscope. Why they didn't do a needle biopsy beats me.:shock:
She has had tumors removed before via surgery a few years ago and now she only has 50% lung capacity, therefore the Doctors say that it is too risky to operate and she refuses Chemo. She is not yet in pain and the Doctors say she has between 3 - 9 months left:cry: . She has however agreed to go along with the Rife treatment:smile: .
It is up to me to find the best machine available, the one that I first came across is the Global Wellness Model G+ at www.rifehealth.com can anyone comment on this machine, or unbiased alternatives please with explanations as to why (I am ready to purchase this week).

Please guys help me out here:neutral:

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Hello Hans
Firstly let me congratulate you - you are a son any parent would be proud of, and I believe you have chosen the best Rife device available. I have a friend who tests these devices for a major coproation here and the GB4000 beats units costing more than ten times the price.
I'm not going to give you more cancer advice - you've had more than enough and I don't want to confuse you except to say... when using the SRT-4, I would not go above quarter past the hour on the power control - at least until your Mum indicates she can handle it. You DO need power when dealing with cancer but too MUCH power can also be harmful.

It has been interesting to observe your concern re scanning which I share in fact. In the GB4000 it is called "Channel Sweep" and you can sweep from 10 to 1000 Hz either side of your selected frequencies. Personally, I would NEVER go more than 20Hz either side because who knows if you are now taking out healthy cells in the process? I'm not saying it's wrong - I just feel there could be considerable risk in doing so.

You will note that teatments are advised to be spaced every two days and I support that but I would also run auto channels for detoxification, and ESPECIALLY candida. New research is showing that virtually all cancer patents have candida and the possibility of a link is being questioned. And I also think it is critical to run the auto channels for inflammation, and boosting the immune system.

With that out of the way, it is important to appreciate that a person's mental state is perhaps more important that any of the above. Whatever you can do to take your Mum to a place of not being a victim of the cancer and instead believing she can BEAT it will help in the extreme. In order to beat cancer - you have to believe it CAN be beaten.

And finally - cancer LOVES sugar - get your Mum off all sugar if possible - I don't know if Stevia is available in Aussie but if it is, it has been named as the best substitute and some of the powdered Stevia brands have virtually no taste. The best (other) substitue which you have plenty of over there is honey. As supplements Coriolus versicolor (1,000mg three times daily on an empty stomach), and Maitake (0.5-1gm per Kg of body weight divided into 3 applications/day on an empty stomach) have all been cited by Dr. James E Balch [MD} as being specifically helpful for lung cancer.

I wish you and your mum all the very best in this battle.
Rgds
Tom

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Hi Dan, :smile:

Thankyou for your response. I know that this is not an exact science and a lot of time is spent on trying to find the right frequencies, I also appreciate that many other people in similar circunstances have spent a great deal of time looking for the right frequencies, some with success and some without. I supose I am trying to narrow the "waste-time" as I am not sure how much time I have with my Mother to be able to help.

My GB-4000/SR-4 has left the states and is now on its way over here. I expect delivery in a few days. I have quit my job and next Friday I will be moving 300 Klms south to be with her for this treatment, for however long it takes.

In between packing it is great to know that all of you are out there trying to help and this is of great comfort to us.

I have set-up a file on my PC and every detail of the treatment starting from day 1 will be recorded to enable me to share the results with others.

Kind regards:smile:

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hi tom,can i ask you a question as i get no response from the suppliers of my machine,i bought a gb4000 with amp to primarily treat diabetes type 2 and tinnitus,i felt quite good after a trip to a clinic in philli from the uk,and thats what made me purchase a gb4000,after doing various frequencies i dont seem to see any improvement,i try the rf obviously you cant feel it(makes me wonder if my machine is working)when on audio mode i do get pulses through the handhelds,but no pulses on audio @freq 10000 (which is a popular frequency)is this the same on your machine?is there any way i can check the outputs on the handhelds on rf,as i say i am from the uk and bought the gb4000 from the usa off the manufactures i had a problem with the power supplies which they replaced,also have you had any success with diabetes type 2 or tinnitus,i have heard so much about the gb4000 just so disapointed with mine at the moment
regards,anthony

Hi Anthony,

An audio signal will give you 50% power because it is active during the 'high' part of the signal and inactive during the 'low' part. If you use the RF carrier, the active 'high' pulse is further reduced by 50% because of the carrier switching on and off at a 50% rate. Therefore you only get 25% overall power, however the frequencies are still there and they are still doing the job of penetrating body tissue.

Whenever I want to check for RF signals, since I can't feel them so easily, I quickly touch the handhelds across my tongue (lower power setting). Like testing a 9V battery. I don't have a GB4000, but I am pretty sure that it works the same way. Rgds.

Hi Anthony
Congratulations on the GB4000 - it is an amazing machine. With regard to "feeling" - typically, the body's ability to feel something happening starts to drop off around or before 4000Hz so even if you are using Audio mode on the GB4000, you won't feel the higher frequencies. The main indicator then is the red lights on the two machines.
I love Hanks suggestion of testing by the tongue but holy ****! :@@: I think I would be more inclined to wipe one arm with a damp cloth - hold a cylinder in that hand and then touch the other cylinder further up the arm and move it slowly down towards the cylinder in the hand until you feel something.
In my experience, if the GB doesn't have an effect then it is purely because we don't have the right frequencies - with the right frequencies in fact it is not possible for it (or any frequency machine really), not to have an effect.
I have not had anyone with diabetes or tinnitus to treat so can't comment there but I think it is important to state that as much as I am in love with the GB, I would not (and do not) rely on it to be a cure all - partly because of the frequency issue. So I CAN tell you that I cured a friend of tinnitus by a neck adjustment (I studied spinal manipulation as part of my martial art training) so it might be worth talking to a good chiropractor (if you can find one).
I would absolutely continue with treating the diabetes with the GB (maybe researching more frequencies) but other things that have proven to be very helpful include Alpha Lipoic Acid, Astaxanthin, Bitter melon (type 2 in particular), Chamomile tea (can lower blood sugar by 25%), Clove oil (2-3 drops in tea or coffee apparently can be amazing), Gymnema Sylvestre (also amazing), and food grade hydrogen peroxide (make sure it is food grade - apparently particularly good for type 2 diabetes).
A couple of references that might be worth pursuing include: "There is a Cure for Diabetes" by Dr Cousins, or check out the video Simply Raw: Reversing Diabetes in 30 Days" at www.rawfor30days.com. Might require you to go "raw" for a month (yikes :frown:) but both claim that diabetes can be reversed.
For the tinnitus - aside from a good chiro the only other thing I can suggest is acupuncture.
In acupuncture, it is believed that tinnitus can be linked to sinus, kidney, and/or liver issues so running the normalising frequencies for those organs and perhaps the sinus program might also be worth a try.
Hope that answers some of your questions and helps.
Rgds
Tom

thanks tom,thats a brilliant reply and thanks for your time,i am trying different things re the tinnitus and the diabetes type 2,i have had accupunture,i visited the usa and had cranial massage,gb4000,and the new indigo treatment,initially i had improvement,not so sure about the indigo though,had my bite aligned,probably if i could have afforded a long stay i may have seen a vast improvement,i have also tried scenar treatment but i found that painful and wasnt doing anything for me,i think its just a case of trial and error with the frequencies,but i am managing an hour every other day now and dont have any herx,i think i will do this for 3 months and see what comes up.
cheers,anthony

ps,i skipped the cylinder on tongue bit.:lol:

Glad you found something useful in my post Anthony. I would be surprised if cranial massage would help the tinnitus - the two cervical vetebrae at the very base of the skull were the culprits in my friend's case (but hey - i'm no expert). The problem with chiros and acupuncturists is finding really good ones - how do you tell? It took 35 years to find a chiro here in Calgary who fixed my lower back issue and he did it by working a muscle in my leg... figure THAT one out! He's absolutely amazing.
And I don't know HOW many acupuncturists I went through before I met my friend Ken who was possibly the best in the South Pacific - incredible what he could do.
Anyway I wish you the very best in finding solutions for your own issues and... on behalf of your tongue "THANK YOU!!!" :grin:

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Glad you found something useful in my post Anthony. I would be surprised if cranial massage would help the tinnitus - the two cervical vetebrae at the very base of the skull were the culprits in my friend's case (but hey - i'm no expert). The problem with chiros and acupuncturists is finding really good ones - how do you tell? It took 35 years to find a chiro here in Calgary who fixed my lower back issue and he did it by working a muscle in my leg... figure THAT one out! He's absolutely amazing.
And I don't know HOW many acupuncturists I went through before I met my friend Ken who was possibly the best in the South Pacific - incredible what he could do.
Anyway I wish you the very best in finding solutions for your own issues and... on behalf of your tongue "THANK YOU!!!" :grin:

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Hello! I successfully solved the problem with pain in the spine using the frequency of the muscles. Complexes was the system of bodybuilding. Included in the complex frequency structure of the muscles. Phenomena radicular syndrome were at least 14 days. Gave physical activity, pain never returned.
Alexander.

I just bought a F165 generator. I would have bought a GB4000 but 1500 was my limit. Anyway a week later there is one on Craigslist for 1250. Par for course. I don;t hear much about the f165 but on the comparsion gb400 site they rated them pretty good. Hopefully mom can handle the machine. Ive tried everything all kinds of pills and drinks:shock:

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I just bought a F165 generator. I would have bought a GB4000 but 1500 was my limit. Anyway a week later there is one on Craigslist for 1250. Par for course. I don;t hear much about the f165 but on the comparsion gb400 site they rated them pretty good. Hopefully mom can handle the machine. Ive tried everything all kinds of pills and drinks:shock:

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Hello! I understand your frustration. However, the need for self-wide knowledge of medicine, physiology, anatomy, pathological physiology, pathology, chosen method of treatment. The device - a tool in the hands of a knowledgeable person. Time - the only real deficit. Do not spend it in the shuffle. Find a specialist in Rife frequencies. Requires direct contact with expert patient.
I wish you luck. Alexander.

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Re: Who died using rife?
It has been long-known that a microbe is responsible for cancer. The primary organisms have been Candida albicons, Aspergillus niger and Mucor Racemosus fresen; there may be others. All of these are fungal in their form having pleomorphically morphed due to the pH of the circulatory body humors. The blood of cancer owners is higher in pH than normal yet the pH of the excretory fluids such as saliva and urine indicate a high acid state, this is an observation by which many laymen and many professionals incorrectly state that 'cancer thrives in an acid state,' it does not. The viral stage of these organisms isn't the problem, it is when these entities shift to the mycelial stage that the action of cancer becomes obvious.

The human body requires both acid and alkaline acids and minerals in order to supply particular environments in which the organs function in stasis. When hydrochloric acid, a normal body constituent acid, other acids will remain in order to regulate the pH. Normally these acids are eliminated when the required hydrochloric acid is present in the body. Nearly every cancer owner is grossly absent in this critical acid along with a gross potassium deficiency. "

>>>>>>>>>>>>Can anyone tell me how to test to see what is the root form of the cancer? bx or by or other ????????

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"Michael Tewksbury"


>>>>>>>>>>>>Can anyone tell me how to test to see what is the root form of the cancer? bx or by or other ????????

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Hello! I define the presence of cancer, stage of development, the prevalence of the process, pH of the affected organ, the method of drug testing by Voll - Schimmel (Vega - test). The data confirm the laboratory methods. Acidic environment is a consequence of metabolic disturbances, not a cause of tumor development. If you change the environment to the acid side, the body appear viruses that are not characteristic of localization. Contribution to the process and the transition to malignancy causing the waste products of these viruses. Using pointers to key factors, I begin to wave therapy directed to the specified virus. The process comes to a reverse development. Clinical experience has shown the consistency of my technique.

Cancer tumors in particular convert sugars into carbon monoxide and lactic acid. The liver processes the lactic acid and converts it back into glucose which creates an excessive demand for a balancing via alkalinity which, when the alkaline reserves are depleted, take minerals out of the bone. This condition is known as cachexia ie., the wasting away of the body and, of course, starvation.

The lactic acid to glucose conversion can be halted with hydrazine sulphate. Cancer patients that use hydrazine usually re-gain their appetite and pain is attenuated and sometimes eliminated altogether.
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...Acidic environment is a consequence of metabolic disturbances, not a cause of tumor development. If you change the environment to the acid side, the body appear viruses that are not characteristic of localization. Contribution to the process and the transition to malignancy causing the waste products of these viruses....

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The lactic acid to glucose conversion can be halted with hydrazine sulphate. Cancer patients that use hydrazine usually re-gain their appetite and pain is attenuated and sometimes eliminated altogether.
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I was not planning to go into details of biochemistry of the process. I've always been interested in the cause of the disease. If the hydrazine has been successfully helping people with cancer, so this area has the right to exist. How often do you use hydrazine in their practice?

Hi,

I am fascinated by this Rife machine. I've read "The Cancer Cure that Worked". I am an Ayurvedic practitioner (that doesn't practice) :smile: and very healthy. I was a 23 year vegetarian, but now eat a raw primal diet with lots of raw dairy. Never felt better.

I noticed that one site I visited suggests it is good fot everything but the kitchen sink.

Has anyone had luck with MS or hearing issues from a childhood illness, hair loss, goitre, anemia, colon polyps, mental concentration?

These were mentioned on the frequency list.

I have a Zapper which works like a charm on skin infections from splinters and a few injuries from water sports that wouldn't heal because I kept going back on the water.

Possibly I am suffering from boytoyitus. I didn't see that on the list LOL

[QUOTE=Alan Faulkner;21837]Hi,



Has anyone had luck with MS or hearing issues from a childhood illness, hair loss, goitre, anemia, colon polyps, mental concentration?

Hello! I've been working with the Russian partativnym frequency generator. Results with 100% positive dynamics. The main key to determine direction. Cancer and anemia are easily therapies.

Has there been any information on the success of using the GB4000 on patients who have already been through 3.5 months of chemotherapy? I was told that Dr. Rife had issues working with patients who already went through chemo. Apparently, the GB4000 could not work on these chemo compromised patients. Any advice or experiences would be very much appreciated! Thanks.

Wes Chang

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Has there been any information on the success of using the GB4000 on patients who have already been through 3.5 months of chemotherapy? I was told that Dr. Rife had issues working with patients who already went through chemo. Apparently, the GB4000 could not work on these chemo compromised patients. Any advice or experiences would be very much appreciated! Thanks.

Wes Chang

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I am working with Rife frequencies of patients after chemotherapy. Just have to add the frequency of the program to support the liver to chemical injury and the program of "scavenger" for the rapid removal of dead skin cells and tissues.

Alexander,
Thank you kindly for the e-mail reply. BTW, do you also have new frequencies for post chemo patients suffering from pancreatic cancer?

Also, how quickly can cancer patients start using the BG4000? Immediately? A day later? A month later? Not sure.

Please advise. Thanks again!

Regards,

Wes Chang

I am thinking about purchasing the BG4000 and would like to know whether anyone has used the BG4000 machine during chemotherapy. In another words, my father will be going through chemotherapy and would like to know whether it is wise to use the BG4000 machine in conjunction with chemotherapy? Thanks to all who can provide any recommendations and advice.

Regards,

Wes

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I am thinking about purchasing the BG4000 and would like to know whether anyone has used the BG4000 machine during chemotherapy. In another words, my father will be going through chemotherapy and would like to know whether it is wise to use the BG4000 machine in conjunction with chemotherapy? Thanks to all who can provide any recommendations and advice.

Regards,

Wes

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I am opposed to chemotherapy. But life dictates its own terms. Patients themselves make decisions. Now these two. One after chemotherapy - 7 days (cancer of the stomach, liver, portal vein). Other - dessiminirovannaya astrocytoma of the brain, the state after partial resection. In the second case, agreed to chemotherapy, but after the positive dynamics of clinical symptoms. Up to 3 months of chemotherapy Rife frequencies. At frequencies of Rife therapy, chemotherapy, underwent easy. In the first case, the negative effects of chemotherapy were all in 4 days. Stopped vomiting after meals, stomach bleeding, appetite, normolizovalsya chair. For a week the patient recovered on 3kilogramma.

Does anyone know how long the GB4000 M.O.P.A. plasma ray tube last? I am thinking that after a few years the gases in the plasma ray tube would eventually dissipate just like a plasma screen television.

I guess the question is how long does the plasma ray tube last as well as how much it would cost to replace. BTW, is there anyway a person like myself can manually replace the gases or is that too dangerous. Thanks.

Regards,

Wes

Hello Westley,

I have been running 3 of the tubes now for over 2 years for several hours a day and they are still like new. I expect that they will last several years without the need of the gas being replaced. Cost of replacement is around $230.

To replace the gas yourself, without the proper equipment, would be very difficult.

Regards,
Jeff Garff

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Does anyone know how long the GB4000 M.O.P.A. plasma ray tube last? I am thinking that after a few years the gases in the plasma ray tube would eventually dissipate just like a plasma screen television.

I guess the question is how long does the plasma ray tube last as well as how much it would cost to replace. BTW, is there anyway a person like myself can manually replace the gases or is that too dangerous. Thanks.

Regards,

Wes

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Hello Westley,

I have talked to many people who have used it with chemotherapy. They usually wait 3 or 4 days after their treatment before they start using the machine again.

Has your father considered Hydrazine Sulfate? It works far better that chemotheraphy and you do not get sick using it. Dr. Gold has followed many people who have used it and for those who start using it as soon as they find out they have cancer they have about a 43% recovery rate comparied with only 3% for chemotheraphy. Just something to consider. Information about Hydrazine Sulfate can be found at the link below.

http://www.rifevideos.com/cancer_and...e_sulfate.html

Regards,
Jeff Garff

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I am thinking about purchasing the BG4000 and would like to know whether anyone has used the BG4000 machine during chemotherapy. In another words, my father will be going through chemotherapy and would like to know whether it is wise to use the BG4000 machine in conjunction with chemotherapy? Thanks to all who can provide any recommendations and advice.

Regards,

Wes

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Jeff,
Thanks for the quick e-mail reply. My brother and I have been desperately telling him not to go the chemo route. However, he is under increasing duress and pressure from his doctors to go this route.

I did hear about hydrazine sulfate. Do you know where is a good place to purchase it? Any recommendations/advice would be enormously appreciated!
Thanks again.

Regards,

Wes

Hello Westley,

Go to the link in the last email and go to the bottom of the page there are three links for places to purchase it.

Regards,
Jeff Garff

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Jeff,
Thanks for the quick e-mail reply. My brother and I have been desperately telling him not to go the chemo route. However, he is under increasing duress and pressure from his doctors to go this route.

I did hear about hydrazine sulfate. Do you know where is a good place to purchase it? Any recommendations/advice would be enormously appreciated!
Thanks again.

Regards,

Wes

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Its me again. Sorry for asking so many questions.

I am torn between purchasing the GB4000 and the Resonant Light PERL machine.

I was looking at the specs and noticed that the Resonant Light PERL only has a frequency range of 1 million hertz compared to the GB4000 which is 20 million hertz.

Based upon the document from Nenah Sylver, she mentions that it is not so much the frequency range as the harmonics (or sideband frequencies) created by the machine which destroy the cancer. Apparently, I was told that the PERL machine is so finely tuned that it precisely creates the required frequencies with ease. On the other hand, it sounds like the GB4000 is more manual in the sense that one has to search the right specific frequencies which work.

On the other hand, I was reading some cites and it mentions the following,"
When looking to purchase a frequency generator the two most important considerations when purchasing a frequency generator is the FREQUENCY RANGE and POWER OUTPUT of the instrument. If it does not have a frequency range which goes from the audio range to at least 12,000,000 hertz (12 million or 12 Megahertz) then you will not be able to use Dr. Rife’s original high RF frequencies."

Last but not least, there is much more information about the GB4000 than there is about the PERL machine.

Any advice or recommendations would be enormously appreciated. Thanks again.

Regards,

Wes

Hello Westley,

What it comes down to is what you want. The PERL has a fixed carrier frequency of 27MHz and the MOPA has a variable carrier frequency from 2.1MHz to 3.6MHZ.

We made the MOPA variable so that people would have the choice of being able to set the carrier frequency on frequencies that were used by Philip Hoyland and Dr. Rife in the Beam Ray Clinical instrument. By making it a variable carrier you can use three methods. One: Use the frequency they used directly. Two: use sidebands to hit the frequency. If you can hit the frequency by either a direct frequency or a sideband it would be better than hitting it with, Three: a square wave harmonic.

So what it really comes down to is you have to decide which method you would prefer to use. Both instruments are good instruments.

Regards,
Jeff Garff

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Its me again. Sorry for asking so many questions.

I am torn between purchasing the GB4000 and the Resonant Light PERL machine.

I was looking at the specs and noticed that the Resonant Light PERL only has a frequency range of 1 million hertz compared to the GB4000 which is 20 million hertz.

Based upon the document from Nenah Sylver, she mentions that it is not so much the frequency range as the harmonics (or sideband frequencies) created by the machine which destroy the cancer. Apparently, I was told that the PERL machine is so finely tuned that it precisely creates the required frequencies with ease. On the other hand, it sounds like the GB4000 is more manual in the sense that one has to search the right specific frequencies which work.

On the other hand, I was reading some cites and it mentions the following,"
When looking to purchase a frequency generator the two most important considerations when purchasing a frequency generator is the FREQUENCY RANGE and POWER OUTPUT of the instrument. If it does not have a frequency range which goes from the audio range to at least 12,000,000 hertz (12 million or 12 Megahertz) then you will not be able to use Dr. Rife’s original high RF frequencies."

Last but not least, there is much more information about the GB4000 than there is about the PERL machine.

Any advice or recommendations would be enormously appreciated. Thanks again.

Regards,

Wes

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Jeff,
Thanks for the quick reply.

I noticed from your message the Perl machine's carrier frequency is set at 27 Mhz versus the GB4000 set at 2.1MHz to 3.6MHZ. I am not clear on why the Perl machine's carrier frequency is set so high versus the GB4000.

If possible, could you possibly explain the differences between a machine with a higher carrier frequency compared to a machine with a lower carrier frequency such as the GB4000?

Is it better to have a higher carrier frequency?

I noticed that the GB4000 has a higher "Frequency Range in Hertz" but not sure what that has to do with carrier frequency.

Any clarification would be enormously appreciated!

Thanks!

Regards,

Wes

Hello Westly,

My answers will probably cause you to have more questions. You can call and I will do my best to answer all your questions.

Jeff Garff
888-486-4420

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Jeff,
Thanks for the quick reply.

I noticed from your message the Perl machine's carrier frequency is set at 27 Mhz versus the GB4000 set at 2.1MHz to 3.6MHZ. I am not clear on why the Perl machine's carrier frequency is set so high versus the GB4000.

If possible, could you possibly explain the differences between a machine with a higher carrier frequency compared to a machine with a lower carrier frequency such as the GB4000?

Is it better to have a higher carrier frequency?

I noticed that the GB4000 has a higher "Frequency Range in Hertz" but not sure what that has to do with carrier frequency.

Any clarification would be enormously appreciated!

Thanks!

Regards,

Wes

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I just got my GB-4000 a few days ago. However I am having an issue with configuring the carrier frequency.

Basically, here is what I did:

When I ran the MOPA in "Set Frequency" mode, I had no problems with setting the carrier frequency to 3.3 Mhz.

However, when I flipped the MOPA over to "Input mode", and ran an auto-channel, all the numbers on the frequency counter were flickering quite rapidly (especially the first three numbers).

I noticed in many of the instructional videos (e.g. CD and Youtube videos), the frequency counter readings were stable and only the last three or four numbers were flickering.

I was trying to configure the gauge to 3.1 but the frequency counter kept flickering between 3.1 to 4.6. Not sure how effective the session was when the frequency counter kept quivering in "input mode". Does this happen often?

Not sure why the frequency counter went berserk after changing to "input mode" on the MOPA.

Thanks.

Regards,

Wes

I was reading some information on colloidal silver and its therapeutic effects. Just wanted to know whether anyone has used colloidal silver and the GB-4000 together and whether they work together well in combination? Any recommendations or experiences would be very much appreciated!

Thanks!

Regards,


Wes

Wesley,

Check out these sites:
http://www.invive.com/index_3.htm
http://www.dr-johnson.com/ There is a Drs. desk reference on the page.
http://www.argyrol.com/agprotein.phtml This will clear up most problems that start in the nose. You can retty well clear up simusitis with proper application

Robert Turner

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I was reading some information on colloidal silver and its therapeutic effects. Just wanted to know whether anyone has used colloidal silver and the GB-4000 together and whether they work together well in combination? Any recommendations or experiences would be very much appreciated!
Thanks!
Regards,
Wes

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Nenah Sylver has a good writeup in her book "The Rife Handbook Of FrequencyTherapy and Holistic Health". It was the antibiotic of choice prior to the drug version which is quite destructive to the healthy bacteria in your gut.

I know someone who used it quite extensively with zero side effects.

Hi All,
There is one of the best silver colloids avilable it is Argyrol and it is available from
www.argyrol.com I recomend getting the 1 oz. bottle. it will pretty well get rid of sinusitus infections and illiminate ever having sinus surgury for the most part.

Invive.com is another source of mild silver protien as well. they have a page that tells the truth about silver colloids the real science and the math.

Robert

Most interesting, when we met I learned that she had a Rife unit for about a year, that she never used. I was curious what it was and offered to read the ProWave manual and explain how it worked. A well made in America unit, but simple to use at too high of a price. Cost more then the GB! It has been used for several months now and the results are most evident, as I stated above. Though it is weaker then the GB-4000, it is simple to use with easy one button programming. She uses a variety of the Auto Coes as she feels are indicated.:idea:[/QUOTE]


Michael, Are you still in southern California?

Hi Jeff,

What is your opinion on True Rife machines?
I have found F117 on http://www.truerife.com

It looks like it is more advanced than other machines on the market and very well build. Have you heard any results from people using it?

Thanks,
Alex

Alex,
If you do a search of this forum, you will find many posts about the TrueRife device.
Just go to the top of any page and enter the search term.
From my research you can do better with other devices.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--POKmWtH78

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PThs4wClkrA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmzkDSYJ4VM

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Curcumin as chemotherapy-well if you like,butwhat other chemo can you obtain by eating lots of curry?i would not like to take a drug or real chemo which by fda rules can only act on cancer in one respect but curcumin does the action in 12 different ways so would be not allowed by fda.I:grin: prefer to consider it as herbal but you do as you wish.

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Hi, I am new in this wonderful forum and this is my baptism with my very new post. I prefer too that curcumin is herbal, but not at all chfemotherapy. It helps in its ordinary usage iin daily life, as spice in soup or salads, or consuming in capsules. Helps in may places, at prostate, any genital disorders (and maintaining good health here), better processing food in a stomack, small instestines and colon.

I am not involved with rife, but as a close friend of Terry Charleston, I wish to inform all, whom had communications with him, that he passed away 2 weeks ago . Cause of death liver failure, stemming from bowel cancer moving onto cancer in the liver, of which most was removed. This inturn required life support to control toxic poisoning of the brain. Terry believed that he had control of the cancer with rife, and truly supported his own theories on the machine. . He told me, he used to run it all night which would stimulate his immune system, to the extent he would want to go and do physical work in very early hours of the morning. One would have to wonder, if this also stimulated the cancer cells. In saying that he may have contributed to his own demise. Sorry for the sad news, but that`s life not rife.

I used a "Rife machine" for breast cancer four years ago and experienced success. I'm now writing a book about cancer treatment options - some of
which includes Rife technologies. I didn't know him, but I'm always curious
about the outcomes of others and what may have contributed to his lack of
success. Sorry for the lack of sensitivity here, but can you tell me which
instrument he was using? I'm keeping a track record of certain machines,
so I can guide others to make sound decisions.

In my experience, there are so many factors involved in the proliferation
of cancer, and each person is unique in dietary needs, metabolism, and de-
toxification, it's impossible to know why he didn't succeed. Did the machine
he was using contribute to cancer growth? It would have to be running with
frequencies that support abnormal cell growth, and that would be something
I've NEVER heard of before. Blessings.

Howdy judith.

I too have used my rife machine on a few people now... May even made one doctor find new faith in god. I use a global wellness. It is ..darn near one of the worst rife machines on the market. Frequencies are masked by channels , it has some silly screw pin device to keep the owner from playing with it, it is oversold saying it can cure things like irritability...... alot of mistakes went into it.

All that said I've cured multiple people with it. sick sick people...

I run ozonated water and colloidal silver with my rife machine to give my clients the best possible chance.

I have saved 3 outta 5 so far... the two I lost were both smokers unto their dying breath..so I don't think I will ever be willing to treat another smoker or at least I'll bitch about it the whole time. I am an ex smoker myself so I know they can do it too.


Also for the record, the only time rife machines seem to make cancer worse is when a discreditor is around... This technology is still suppressed. And we do get detractors here. I do not know if this was the case for Terry and I certainly hope not.. although for being real big into this Terry hardly ever posted here and was real big about rifing the frequency 666 as if the cliche number had special powers... If you rife yourself with the wrong frequencys not much will happen.


What kind of rife machine did you use for your breast cancer , if I might ask"

HI JUST a quick comment on Faraday cage = If your home is a steel frame house, what is getting popularity in Australia, YOU are living in a cage, generally earthed.
Blocked from the vital geo magnetic radiation, and living in a 50Hz +other EMF field, coming from the wireing
Peter

To clarify --The solid state frequency generator with pads is nothing to do with Rife, despite what Mr Crane said or wrote -- however certain frequencies kill pathogens as I am experienced in the past 15 years with my version of the Hulda zapper.(380--390KHz 75/25 wave ratio, and 2x 9v batteries)--saved me in ebola infection,and to flue, many times --even neutralize wasp and bee sting we discovered accidentally(My wife has severe allergy to them).
Peter

I used a very simple EMEM with plasma tube and hand-held signal generator. The frequencies were in the very low to low range.
I'm trying to contact the builder, but he's hard to get hold of. He gave me the frequency set - and it had a positive track record.
A protege of his used it for metastasized breast cancer in the lymph nodes and lung. Who would have guessed that 4 years later
I'd be asking the question, "How did it work?" I was living in a different paradigm!

The fact that he used frequencies associated with superstition is dumb-founding. Congratulations on your outcomes. I don't know
in what direction the book I've almost finished will take me. It's been a long, arduous process, and I feel like a completely
different person. Keep up the very excellent work! Judith Dew

Judith how are you getting on with your book?

I am far along. I hit a wall when my youngest son developed cancer in his
eye, and it had to be removed. It was a traumatized eye, and he went
ahead with the biopsy, and the doctor removed his eye without adequate
permission. I've found a world-class hospital in Mexico that does system
perfusion hyperthermia, ozone, and many more kinds of progressive treat-
ments, so we're getting his diet on track - and assessing what needs to be
done. My book is complex in that it approaches cancer the way Dr. Kelley
and Dr. Gonzalez approach it - which is that each of us has individualized
nutritional needs, so his diet isn't the standard cancer diet. Thanks for
asking. It will certainly have a different ending than what I conceived. It's
a whole different story when you've lived the reality that there is NO one
standard cancer diet. This all just happened last week, so I'm going to
talk to a doctor who is an expert in metabolic typing and get some of my
questions answered. Now, the same questions I had for my book are the
very questions I need answers to about my son. He's a Parasympathetic
Dominant, and I don't know if he would respond favorably to many of the
high alkaline protocols that most people think they need. Believe me,
when I have this under my hat, I'll be a happy camper. Blessings to you.

YES high alkaline. .. Ozonate, Rife and colloidal silver...

THANK GOD you were there... Losing an eye is like... NOPE NOPE NOPE.


Great on you being aware and awesome!!!

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YES high alkaline. .. Ozonate, Rife and colloidal silver...

THANK GOD you were there... Losing an eye is like... NOPE NOPE NOPE.


Great on you being aware and awesome!!!

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I read that you shouldn't take ozonated water at the same time as rife therapy but that it should be done afterwards?

Has anyone tried doing MMS and rife as part of a full cancer treatment? It seems like that would be pretty potent.

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Originally Posted by Mark Le Huray

I read that you shouldn't take ozonated water at the same time as rife therapy but that it should be done afterwards?

Has anyone tried doing MMS and rife as part of a full cancer treatment? It seems like that would be pretty potent.

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You should enjoy some ozanted both before and after a Rife session for maximum results.

I avoid MMS like the plague. Some swear by it but the same folks that swear by it use it daily because they are always sick. Hypercondria. ugh. So personal experience has seriously biased me against it ...

I believe it could be useful as a once in a while thing just like Rifeing once in a awhile is good but I aint sure it should be done every day. If you are doing something every single day and still not getting better double check what your doing.

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Originally Posted by Russell Shipp

You should enjoy some ozanted both before and after a Rife session for maximum results.

I avoid MMS like the plague. Some swear by it but the same folks that swear by it use it daily because they are always sick. Hypercondria. ugh. So personal experience has seriously biased me against it ...

I believe it could be useful as a once in a while thing just like Rifeing once in a awhile is good but I aint sure it should be done every day. If you are doing something every single day and still not getting better double check what your doing.

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Okay that is what I thought just wanted that cleared up that it should be used before or after a session.
With the colloidal silver how and how much do you recommend someone takes?

I have never used MMS but have heard good reports about it from a German doctor who reckoned it cured her malaria when she was in Africa.

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Okay that is what I thought just wanted that cleared up that it should be used before or after a session.
With the colloidal silver how and how much do you recommend someone takes?

I have never used MMS but have heard good reports about it from a German doctor who reckoned it cured her malaria when she was in Africa.

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I always use a store bought brand "Source naturals Wellness" 30 ppm or 30 Parts per million. Some recommend mega does like 200 ppm but I find 30 ppm plenty. I use the throat spray exclusively. I believe the mist spray allows for rapid absorption through the pallet and throat and thats what I want when rifing clients. I always ask that they use the colloidal spray first before we start rifing.

I'm big about the silver because of what I have seen. I was rifing a friend for psoriasis on her neck. She did not want to remove her grand mothers silver necklace and I said OK. I did not expect immediate results. IT was the most dramatic thing I have ever seen. Directly where the necklace rested on her neck the skin went from patchy irritated pink and normal peach clean skin. So she still had alot of patchy red skin... But their was a peach line cut right through it... and the rest of it looked seriously better..... I was looking forward to finishing her off and completely curing her with multiple treatments but that was the only one she ever did.. she had to move out of state a week later. REGARDLESS after witnessing this i've always insisted on clients doing the CS throat spray first. 2 to 4 squirts .... They could do more too I don't mind.. but on occasion I do get those clients that want to just keep on squirting till they empty like a fourth of a bottle... I try to discourage that sillyness. I want them to get some inside them but they don't need to take shots of this stuff... A little is plenty.



ON MMS..... I hear good things about it too... I understand what it is made of and how it works, and YEAH it will do alot as a great body disinfectant. But it should be treated like serious medicine and not vitamins. Meaning those folks that use it every day are abusing it at their own risk to there health. I see it promoted like crazy and the exaggerations of its unlimited potential are there. I don't use it for my clients myself. And .. I don't discourage it.. but I dont encourage it either .. I just see too many people over doing it it like crazy.



A sick person only needs medicine when they are sick , healthy folks don't need medicine.

I am looking through all of your input, and surprised how many different gadgets are called Rife machine.
In my understanding none of what I see here are to do anything with Rife, and his works! I do not deny that some make good result in many cases, but is a difference to get some result, and to claim that it is Rife technology. First : Rife used tube oscillator, tube amplifier and Phanotron tube probably filled with argon, or a mixture of it. until I build my gadget according to my filtered out research I can not comment on cancer cure, apart from the historical records that Rife did cure cancer probably with 100% result.
If any of you can do more research I appreciate.
A STORY is circulating : once a machine in Rife's laboratory was malfunctioned, and the result was that ALL specimen in that laboratory DIED ! --but nobody wants to talk about the details, or nobody know?

Peter,

Yes, it is remarkable the wide variety of machines that are labelled Rife. I think today people call anything that is a frequency generator a Rife machine. But it is difficult to peg down precisely what a "Rife Machine" is. Even those machines that Rife himself was involved with in some fashion differ substantially. People who have researched these in depth like Jeff Garff and Jim Berger, both of whom posted to this thread early on, would probably go so far as to distinguish between particular models of Rife's early machines when discussing technical merits of a "Rife Machine". see http://www.rifevideos.com/what_is_a_...e_machine.html

Since this thread seems to wander and you're building a machine, a side note about plasma tube gases and electrodes might help you when you choose a plasma tube. Rife used helium but I think he said it didn't matter. However, it may matter over the long term, particularly with an internal electrode style tube. Helium is apparently much more resistant to degradation over time. The ionized gas (any noble gas mixture) is incredibly caustic and rips apart anything it touches including internal electrodes and glass walls. The elements that are torn off these surfaces combine with the noble gas(es) and reduce conductivity to the point of failure.

Helium is apparently the most resistant to this phenomenon. This probably matters most with internal electrode tubes. I believe Rife used helium in his tube. Possibly for this reason. With an external electrode tube the fouling problem appears to be much less significant, so it's probably not a big deal there. I believe Garff said somewhere on this forum that he has 3 external electrode tubes having mixed gases he uses a lot and they are at least 2 years old with no darkening.

Even helium filled tubes will darken though with enough use. However, apparently Rife said even when completely dark they continued to work just fine. The loss of visible spectrum frequencies didn't matter in this case, at least according to Rife. This is in contrast to a tube having anything else. A dark tube in that case will indicate increasing resistance which will mean a decrease in output and possibly distortion, and eventual failure of your amplifier if you're not careful.

So, as I build my machine, at the moment I've settled on helium for internal electrode tubes and anything for external electrode tubes. External electrode tubes can support much larger outputs since the electrode is bigger and isn't subjected to the terrible environment. Internal electrodes can convey signals more accurately. So it depends on your goal. There is apparently no perfect solution for all situations.

This information is largely by private correspondence with Ralph Hartwell who builds pad and plasma tube amplifiers and Jeff Garff who builds the GB4000 system. They've both been active contributors to understanding and using Rife technology a long time and are both very helpful.

I hope it helps you, too.

John

He was using colloidal silver in the eye before the worst happened. Should he be using it orally? I'm so on tilt I haven't thought about it since then. Thanks for responding. It means a lot.

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He was using colloidal silver in the eye before the worst happened. Should he be using it orally? I'm so on tilt I haven't thought about it since then. Thanks for responding. It means a lot.

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Both. I'd recommend both.

You would recommend colloidal silver in the eye that was removed?
He couldn't tolerate that I don't think. What about colloidal silver in
DMSO suspension applied all around the eye? AND orally?

Dang.. I thought he was able to save his eye.... In that case yeah I'd recommend Orally only.

Peter,

The story you are speaking about, I believe, has to do with the Hoyland sweep. The Rife machine did not malfunction. It was just an experiment in searching for the M.O.R. for two forms of cryptomyces pleomorphia, as seen below. Here is the link if you care to read the STORY:

http://www.rifevideos.com/dr_rife_an...mhz_sweep.html

DR. JOHNSON: “Last summer, in hunting for the M.O.R. for the other two reproductive forms of the cryptomyces pleomorphia, we ran into a new band of oscillations which introduced itself to us by killing all three forms - those that we called BX, our filter-passing form; then a transitional form such as you found in the monocytes in the blood; and then the third or highly developed form coming from the sporangius forming from the hyphas of the mycelium. At the same time that this new wave band arrived, we broke all the glass in the laboratory of a certain shape, not only in the room where we were working but in all the other rooms...we had been troubled a great deal with a mold because in the microscope room there were no windows, but this band not only destroyed that mold, which was growing on the leather objects in the room, but every bacteriological culture that we had in the laboratory! It cleaned us out completely so we had to start from scratch and replace our losses. In fact, we were all so surprised that we began to feel each other’s pulses to see if we were still alive. As no harm had been done to us, we proceeded to test the new band out on mice, rats, rabbits, guinea pigs and dogs. So far as we were able to discover, it is not at all destructive or injurious to normal cell tissue. While we have been forced to modify our machine so as to produce this new band, still it is so much more effective clinically that we look upon it as a very advantageous discovery. However, our experience has forced us to do all of our experimenting with the new ray [Rife Ray #5 or Beam Ray Clinical instrument] completely outside of our laboratory building or abandon all form of bacteriological experiments, because it instantly kills them all."



bacteriological experiments, because it instantly kills them all.

Hi everyone, the frequency for the GB-4000s against cancer can be inquired at:

info@cancertutor.com

or

garyteal@comcast.net

Both emails are affiliated with the Independent Cancer Research Institute which specialized in these cures.

Best regards!

Also, generally, the website www.cancertutor.com is highly recommendable for everyone researching how to cure cancer!

Eye cancer is getting to be wide spread occurance ,, any Ideas what is causing this type of cancer to manifest?

Hi Kristal
You just replicated accidentally what Rife experienced at one occasion. I was actually searching the details of that "accident" would you explain what machine you have, what was actually coming out of your machine at that time? what frequency, or what combinatins, what carrier, and approx. how much power???
Sorry for tis messy imput, I did not figure out how to separate my writing from the quotes.

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Peter,

The story you are speaking about, I believe, has to do with the Hoyland sweep. The Rife machine did not malfunction. It was just an experiment in searching for the M.O.R. for two forms of cryptomyces pleomorphia, as seen below. Here is the link if you care to read the STORY:

http://www.rifevideos.com/dr_rife_an...mhz_sweep.html

DR. JOHNSON: “Last summer, in hunting for the M.O.R. for the other two reproductive forms of the cryptomyces pleomorphia, we ran into a new band of oscillations which introduced itself to us by killing all three forms - those that we called BX, our filter-passing form; then a transitional form such as you found in the monocytes in the blood; and then the third or highly developed form coming from the sporangius forming from the hyphas of the mycelium. At the same time that this new wave band arrived, we broke all the glass in the laboratory of a certain shape, not only in the room where we were working but in all the other rooms...we had been troubled a great deal with a mold because in the microscope room there were no windows, but this band not only destroyed that mold, which was growing on the leather objects in the room, but every bacteriological culture that we had in the laboratory! It cleaned us out completely so we had to start from scratch and replace our losses. In fact, we were all so surprised that we began to feel each other’s pulses to see if we were still alive. As no harm had been done to us, we proceeded to test the new band out on mice, rats, rabbits, guinea pigs and dogs. So far as we were able to discover, it is not at all destructive or injurious to normal cell tissue. While we have been forced to modify our machine so as to produce this new band, still it is so much more effective clinically that we look upon it as a very advantageous discovery. However, our experience has forced us to do all of our experimenting with the new ray [Rife Ray #5 or Beam Ray Clinical instrument] completely outside of our laboratory building or abandon all form of bacteriological experiments, because it instantly kills them all."



bacteriological experiments, because it instantly kills them all.

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I have a good friend who uses a Global Wellness machine and swears by it. She has had a very aggressive brain tumor for the past 8 yrs and has stopped it in it's tracks, She is 75 and like an energizer bunny!

This is not her only tool. She drinks Kangen 9.5 water, watches her diet very carefully, and constantly checks her urine to insure it is slightly alkaline (since cancer can't live in an alkaline environment!)

She has been told by two separate sources that her tumor is still there but crystallized (in remission). Whatever is working is doing a great job :)

John

Hi Crystal
thank you for the quote,
Is anyone know how was the experiment set up, what frequency package, or sweep was used, and with what carrier ?
Regards
Peter

Hello John.

Can you please find out about the model number for the Global Wellness machine?

Also how much 9.5 water does your friend drink?

I am doing my research for my Dad who is on oral chemo and really new to this kind of therapy.

Thanks
Adi

I swore by my global.wellness too...and i used many other devices and the high ph water, ozonated. ...rife stuff works great when good protocols are followed.

I had read that it doing cancer sets of frequencies that they got better results running them every 3 days rather than every day so I put a scheduler into my program just in case people want to use this method.

www.profoundlyhealthy.com/FQ.html

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Originally Posted by Russell Shipp

I always use a store bought brand "Source naturals Wellness" 30 ppm or 30 Parts per million. Some recommend mega does like 200 ppm but I find 30 ppm plenty. I use the throat spray exclusively. I believe the mist spray allows for rapid absorption through the pallet and throat and thats what I want when rifing clients. I always ask that they use the colloidal spray first before we start rifing.

I'm big about the silver because of what I have seen. I was rifing a friend for psoriasis on her neck. She did not want to remove her grand mothers silver necklace and I said OK. I did not expect immediate results. IT was the most dramatic thing I have ever seen. Directly where the necklace rested on her neck the skin went from patchy irritated pink and normal peach clean skin. So she still had alot of patchy red skin... But their was a peach line cut right through it... and the rest of it looked seriously better..... I was looking forward to finishing her off and completely curing her with multiple treatments but that was the only one she ever did.. she had to move out of state a week later. REGARDLESS after witnessing this i've always insisted on clients doing the CS throat spray first. 2 to 4 squirts .... They could do more too I don't mind.. but on occasion I do get those clients that want to just keep on squirting till they empty like a fourth of a bottle... I try to discourage that sillyness. I want them to get some inside them but they don't need to take shots of this stuff... A little is plenty.



ON MMS..... I hear good things about it too... I understand what it is made of and how it works, and YEAH it will do alot as a great body disinfectant. But it should be treated like serious medicine and not vitamins. Meaning those folks that use it every day are abusing it at their own risk to there health. I see it promoted like crazy and the exaggerations of its unlimited potential are there. I don't use it for my clients myself. And .. I don't discourage it.. but I dont encourage it either .. I just see too many people over doing it it like crazy.



A sick person only needs medicine when they are sick , healthy folks don't need medicine.

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I get throat cankers from herpes simplex 1, which if untreated develop into serial mononucleosis. While managing stress prevents them, the only thing I've found to touch them is silver. A long time ago an MD put me on to silver nitrate, but I can't buy the stuff, so I use colloidal silver. After trying many brands, some at high concentrations, I tried Mesosilver by Purest Colloids Inc.. It's only 20 ppm but they claim an extremely small particle size, resulting in more area of silver available to work. It isn't the most expensive, but I've found it works best for me.

I mentioned this to my chiropractor/nutritionist when we were discussing health fads— Consumer Reports put colloidal silver on their top ten list of quackery a couple years ago and I was ripping them apart. I've tried a lot of things and silver is all that has worked for me.

He said that his problem was with people who ingest the stuff (I apply it directly to the cankers, then gargle and spit). With silver's ability to kill any and all microorganisms, from virii to bacteria to mycoplasmas, ingesting silver will indeed decontaminate your intestines. Problem is, intestinal flora makes up the vast majority of your immune system. Silver takes them all out, paving the way for imbalanced gut flora, leading to medical complications.

This is such hot science that you would not believe the number of recent (last 2 years) patent applications for devices and procedures for poop transplants— it seems a near instant cure for lupus, irritable bowel syndrome, asthma, diabetes, obesity and many other impossible-to-treat modern conditions. Your mileage may vary, but I wouldn't go swallowing silver needlessly until we know a heck of a lot more about optimal intestinal flora.

Hi Russell

Do you recall the actual frequencies you ran for the psoriasis? I find this really interesting as I used to work in Chemicals whose sole purpose was to remove Silver from film to develop Radiographs for industrial purposes. Industrial Radiography. I developed psoriasis, which is also a side effect of the drug Indocid, that the doctors prescribed. Could there be a connection? I'd say Yes!

Thanks

http://www.rifeforum.com/forum/showt...6297#post36297

Make sure you get the right amps too. I think the energy wellness uses a nine volt six hundred miliamp with a positive connection.. find that pkug or make positive you get a corrwct replacement. Wrong vltage or amparage can mess up the machine.

Hello all,
I built one similar to the unit he used on me. generator, cb radio, linear,
antenna tuner, tube. tube is from bill in canada. It puts out approx
135 watts and changes with frequency. My system goes from 50 watts (not very
often below 100 watt output) to between 145 and 150 watts. I am working on
cataracts I don't do it every day just taking my time. My left eye was real
bad doc said I should have it removed right away and suggested docs to
remove them. every thing was blurry with left eye now can't read letters on
forum with left eye but right eye is good.Will do another treatment tomorrow
will make the forth time not sure how many treatments it will take.

HOW TO CURE CANCER FROM WHAT'S IN YOUR KITCHEN!!!!!!!!!!!

No meat, coffee or soda

few ozs fresh carrot juice 2 to 4 times a day

1000mg Vit "C" every 4 hours as body don'[t use it spits out unused c

mix these 3 items and drink morning and night one week next week just at night

4 ozs water
2 to 4 tablespoons pure maple syrup or black strap molasses
1 teaspoon baking soda

I told my friend and he told this guy who the doc's said you have maybe
3 months to live and in 2 weeks he was back to work.


his friend had breast cancer but she had it removed and did the first week
program. Doc said she was crasy for not taking the radition treatment and went back for a check up after one week and doc said she
had no cancer.

I learned this from a friend that goes to these $2,000 weekend seminars
I can't afford to go.
Was told that a Japanese doc injected baking soda into a cancerous tumor
and destroyed it instantly baut was told the above.

Don't know it it works on all cancer but its cheap and worth the try

God Bless
William Smith

kills cancer cells

no meat, no coffee or soda
couple ozs fresh carrot juice couple times a day
1000mg VIT "C" every 4 hours as every 3 to 4 hour body spits out what it don't use

twice a day for first week then next week just nights
2 to 4 tablespoons black strap molasses or pure maple syrup
4 ozs waterr
1 teaspoon baking soda
mix well and drink

hope this will help someone
William Smith

Hello my name is rafal i am completly new to this website ,My dad was diagnosed with cancer and had surgery i found out about rifl on www.cancertutaot.com where i found planty information how to fight cancer alternative way . Acording to this website best way to fight cancer is budwig diet protocol with suplementation of cellect suplement , and rifl frequency . Please help me to find right machine ( i want to buy gb4000) and what frequency use to kil microbes ( smal bactery which couse cancer)
Because i am foreigner and englis is not my firs langue i have problem to read whole this post and find right information

You might find some information from this person who had a machine for sale on ebay Poland;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/332063316445...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Good luck

Ed

I don't know if I said this before but I knew a person
that can tell you what's wrong with you is by using these little vials
and was told that I had colon cancer and it was going up in the limp nodes
and this friends rife machine cured me in 7 days or 7 treatments. I was not
able to get any freq's from him as he had so many people that came to him
for treatments he tossed the note books when they were full. After the 7 days
went back to the person with the little vials and was told cancer free. Now I
have not heard of any other machine that can do the same. Some take as
long as 30 days for breast cancer, sounds like a pretty weak unit to me.
This is a list of the equipmemt in the system:
atelierrobin signal generator made in canada
cb radio uniden 510xl modified can also use a 520xl modified
linear 350 watt
antenna tuner MFJ 940E with a 4:1 balum installed
1 inch x 20 inch glass tube with bubble in middle contains 2 gases made by
Bill in canada.
astron 35A power supply

Does anyone know of a system that will get rid of cancer in less than 7 days?

I sure wish he would have kept the note book as it has freq's that he used
for a lot of different people and their problems.

AND YES A RIFE MACHINE CAN GET RID OF CANCER!!!!

I ordered the manual from Dr Bare in Albuhoqueque New Mexico

Bare-Rife / Rife-Bare Devices ~ ~ ~
Bare-Rife (also known as Rife-Bare) devices use a frequency generator, a radio, amplifier and tuner to modulate a plasma tube which is being driven by the high-voltage signal. Because of the cost of components, these systems generally cost between $2,500 and $6,000. They are a radiant device, and are not generally used where one is in contact with the plasma tube. These are our favorite machines. taken from http://www.dfe.net/links_rb.html

I am not trying to nock any ones equipment just stating facts that I know of.

hope this info will be of some help. I will answer any questions if I can.

Wm Smith

Don't have a rife machine? this will work

If I had cancer this is what I would be doing:
no meat, coffee or soda makes system acidic

lemon and water makes us alkaline

1000 mgs vit "C" every 4 hours as body spits out what it don't use every 3 to 4 hours
couple ounces of fresh carrot juice 2 to 4 times a day
1 to 4 tablespoons pure maple syrup or black strap molasses
4 oz water
1 teaspoon baking soda *mix well and drink morning and night for one week then for one week only at night.

I received this info from a friend.* Was also told that a japanese doctor injects
baking soda into a cancerous tumor and instantly its gone.

I gave this info to a friend and he gave it to a guy that the doctors told him
he only had 3 months or less to live and in two weeks he was back to work.

we use this protocol , we use baking soda witamin c intraveing injection 25g , 1g liposomal witamin c also , but we want to use rifle protocol also as is most recomended together with budwig diet . I am going to buy gb4000 as is most recomended but i dont know what frequensy to use to kil microbes , if no one know let me know where to looking for

Czesc Rafal!
Look for CAFL list at the internet there are many frequency sets for many cancer types and You may use any other device in addiction to software generator for example FreqGen (dos and win 95), FreX16 or Spooky. For them You ought to have a PC with a sound card.
Budwig diet works for shure.

i am wary cofuse becouse cancerturor recomend only gb4000 wich frequensy is most close to orgina royal rifle and have 20mhz and spooky is only 3mhz . Reagarding the frequency list there is so many nr how to set up gb machine for such frequensy ?
20mhz shall is use the maximum strenth when use gb4000 ot this power is no esensial

I will say briefly; read letters in this forum but know that this is not the only knowledge for today. Around the work of Rife arisen many legends of so-called "urban legends" and several facts are certain: the original Rife machine healed cancer and other diseases but such machines no longer exist. Each of the creators of their product praises like a fox tail. The worst, of involuntary R.R.Rife some use of his name in the name of their product, which have nothing to do with the Rife machine. Frequency for BX, then how can you claim is 1604kHz. I built an analog generator from 10kHz to 30MHz and recently purchased chinese DDS module from 1Hz to 50MHz (sine wave) and to the 10MHz (square wave). Remember also that not for every case (patient) can be used a frequency method.
Continued discussion in the relevant thematic threads or write private.

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i am wary cofuse becouse cancerturor recomend only gb4000 wich frequensy is most close to orgina royal rifle and have 20mhz and spooky is only 3mhz . Reagarding the frequency list there is so many nr how to set up gb machine for such frequensy ?
20mhz shall is use the maximum strenth when use gb4000 ot this power is no esensial

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As I remember the 3 MHz Spookey2 generator limit is theoretically extended by the software above that 3MHz limit. In fact the Forum leaders indicated it was not worth paying extra for the 20MHz generator because software expanded the limit. I no longer have access to that forum so I cannot verify that.

Ed

Rafal Kicha if you want a real machine that will work contact
Dr James Bare in Albuqueque New Mexico he was selling manuels
so you could build your own or buy one that he has made. He was
able to work with Dr Rife. Some info for you and you have a phone
number so you can call him.

https://www.resonantlight.com/progen2/

http://www.teslatech.info/ttstore/co...jul/600202.htm

http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioe...dotes/CAFL.htm

http://www.dfe.net/links_rb.html

I don't see why you would need 8 different freq's at one when one does the job. altierrobin in canada makes a generator
http://atelierrobin.net/index.php?op...id=471&lang=en
I like my system that I put together from the manuel that I ordered from Dr James Bare.

stanislaw are you polish ? cancerturor recomend gb4000 is most close to rifle machine , i am preaty sure it can cure many diesaes including cancer but need to know right frequensys. I have no time to do research about other generator becouse cancer dosnt wait . Pleanty people are happy with gb4000 becouse is strong do the job and easy to oparate

i dont know what i need for 8 frequency in one time i have no absolylty no idea how it works , but 20mhz is powed i belive something like horse powed in car , if i am wrong please explain me something step by step

Rafal Kichal did you check out the info I listed?

how many watts does the gb4000 put out?

my units output is between 125 and 175 watts human can only take 250 watts

wiliam yes i have seen this links regarding books to buy , i cant find any contact beside why shall i build my own , and how i expect to work better if gb comapny seems they know much more how to build righ machine . You ask how many wats gb4000have , please check by yourself , i am here to hind an answer not to get you answer . One more time i will say cancerturor recomend it this machine as the closer one ro royal rifle if they are wrong tell me why

Jim, I want to thank you for your work and detailed information presented on your 4/2/2006 note on "Can a Rife machine cure cancer?"

I have been treating my wife with metastasized ovarian carcinosarcoma stage iv for 7 weeks with the GB4000 w/M.O.P.A. and am discouraged that there has not been more results. Our Oncologist tells us there are no blood markers that are reliable for this and the tumors do not appear to be regressing.

I like the control you seem to have over your protocol via software and am looking at the Spooky2 software & interfaces. The volunteers supporting the software seem to be dedicated for non-monetary gains. Trying to be brief here (we are doing all the things we know to do with diet, detoxing, supplements) but am open to any solid information you or others reading this can point us to. Folks like yourself that tirelessly try to help others are to be commended.

Dwayne Crouse
Wake Forest

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Jim, I want to thank you for your work and detailed information presented on your 4/2/2006 note on "Can a Rife machine cure cancer?"

I have been treating my wife with metastasized ovarian carcinosarcoma stage iv for 7 weeks with the GB4000 w/M.O.P.A. and am discouraged that there has not been more results. Our Oncologist tells us there are no blood markers that are reliable for this and the tumors do not appear to be regressing.

I like the control you seem to have over your protocol via software and am looking at the Spooky2 software & interfaces. The volunteers supporting the software seem to be dedicated for non-monetary gains. Trying to be brief here (we are doing all the things we know to do with diet, detoxing, supplements) but am open to any solid information you or others reading this can point us to. Folks like yourself that tirelessly try to help others are to be commended.

Dwayne Crouse
Wake Forest

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Honestly ... are we still doing this scam? If we could cure diseases by sending hair and toe nail clippings to south Africa we would not need to drag our machines to clients homes or invite them into our homes and clinics. The spooky stuff is a scam by con artists STOP IT. Its time to stop. Spooky BS has nothing to do with Rife therapy. You wanna post spooky shit start your own spooky forum and keep your scams limited to there. They have no place here.

You can think how you want and what you want but the remote frequency interaction works. I built my own generator set and a remote transmitter and carried out the trials on the nails of several people with health problems. It is just as effective in a longer period of time as the treatment with contact electrodes and the effectiveness depends mainly on whether the correct frequency was used. Rife did not know this phenomenon and therefore he did not use it, and besides, there was a completely different state of knowledge and technique, and I personally do not intend to go back to historical times but use currently available knowledge and technology. I don't think that this technology can cure all the diseases alone.

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You can think how you want and what you want but the remote frequency interaction works. I built my own generator set and a remote transmitter and carried out the trials on the nails of several people with health problems. It is just as effective in a longer period of time as the treatment with contact electrodes and the effectiveness depends mainly on whether the correct frequency was used. Rife did not know this phenomenon and therefore he did not use it, and besides, there was a completely different state of knowledge and technique, and I personally do not intend to go back to historical times but use currently available knowledge and technology. I don't think that this technology can cure all the diseases alone.

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Oh I dont think anything I know its a hoax. A hoax being perpetrated to discredit and devalue legitimate Rife Therapy. I mean if what was said about remote therapy was true youd be hitting millions of people based on skin cells in dust particles alone. Remote healing is quackery.

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Oh I dont think anything I know its a hoax. A hoax being perpetrated to discredit and devalue legitimate Rife Therapy. I mean if what was said about remote therapy was true youd be hitting millions of people based on skin cells in dust particles alone. Remote healing is quackery.

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Russell,

I am hesitant to wade into opinions... but...

I have used the three versions of Rife therapy, plasma - (Resonant Light - 'Perl'), Contact ('Rife Medic') and what has acquired the title 'Quantum entanglement'.

The 'Perl' was effective, fast and comfortable and relatively expensive. If I had a serious issue, I would get or rent one. By the time I got my first 'Rife Medic', contact was passe, so I used it as a QE device and have had many excellent results. Prostate (normalization), Liver (Alanine transaminase normalized), arthritis (gone), hypothyroid (normalized), canker sores (eliminated), and a number of other successes. Lots of misses also.

In my experience, all therapies whether allopathic, or what is referred to as alternative are effective or ineffective mainly due to the healer's talent and care. In the 2000 year old Ayurvedic texts, they say the same thing.

The Caraka Samhita (2000 year old medical texts) list the qualities necessary to affect a healing as ;

Good Doctor,
Good Nurse,
Good Patient
Appropriate and quality tools, preparations, herbs and diet.

The remark "youd be hitting millions of people based on skin cells in dust particles alone", is an opinion based on not following the method. The DNA samples required to get results have to be specific and solid, i.e. finger or toe nails. Blood, urine, snot, semen, tears, hair, saliva, etc. do not work.

Referring to anything as quackery is pretty strong and in my world requires strong proof. Please do present yours.

"sleeping on a complete metal-free bed"

What about sleeping on earthed/grounded metallic bed?

I'll share some technical info and lab research from my group.

We have to distinguish among 3 types of machines:
1. Original (pre-Hoyland) machines
2. Post-Hoyland machines, clones and replicas
3. Other machines

Machines type #1 on cancer:
- they can help with some specific type of cancers (mostly lung/breast related), not all
- they work very well in vitro, and to a certain extent in vivo on exposed areas (if they are not exposed, it has to be done through surgery)
- they work little to nothing with inner cancers
Mechanisms involved:
- cancer is sensitive to temperature. Thermal shock contributes to cell apoptosis
- EM shock by high voltage spikes. This cleans up the environment by mechanical induction (shaking, rotation, etc.) and can disturb the operation of cancerous cells
- it alters proteins and DNA in cancerous cells (as well in normal cells); when cancerous cells, which have an already altered DNA, become too compromised and cannot photoreactivate, apoptosis is triggered. Normal cells can recover, but can also go mad. Statistically, with the right doses, they recover
Targeted chemical constituents: Benzene, Anthracene (Benz(a)anthracene-7.12-dione), Naphthalene, and Styrene to clear up the environment (mostly tobacco-related). O-O bonds in the cell, which involves mitochondria and the breathing process of the cell (cancer is oxygen hungry; when you target the source it feeds from, the cell dies)

Machines type #2 on cancer:
None of those machines is currently properly tuned up according to original machines. Therefore, without clear electrical and lamp parameters, it is not possible to predict how well they will operate.
In general, they should have no effect on cancer, but there are certain variants that might. For example, a Rife/Bare system could be made to work against cancer with some modifications (using multiple frequencies at the same time, choosing the proper lamp, etc.). Same with a Bedini RPX Sideband Generator, if it is properly amplified and fed to a proper lamp.

The thing is more complex, but I think this guideline can be helpful. Many variants and machine #2 seem to help with long exposure times. But right for that reason, as they cannot achieve a timely killoff, they only display initial good results. Then, the cancer cells adapt and become more virulent than before, leading to a quick death. Thus, you can talk about an improved quality of life for a time, but not about healing. However, this is not the original Rife principle.

Your message has a serious errors;
"it alters proteins and DNA in cancerous cells (as well in normal cells); when cancerous cells, which have an already altered DNA,"
Cancer cells have not an altered DNA. If they have, an immune system have to kill them.
"O-O bonds in the cell, which involves mitochondria and the breathing process of the cell (cancer is oxygen hungry; when you target the source it feeds from, the cell dies)"
Cancer cells are not an oxygen hungry because they do not burn glucose in oxygen but in the lack of oxygen they carry out glucose fermentations to achieve an energy.
There is a fundamental knowledge about cancer cells vs healthy cells which You don't have.

Maybe you have different sources and the only error is your thread spamming and agenda.

My point is DNA alteration, for which there is plenty of studies.
If the immune system would intervene every time DNA is altered, many viruses would not exist (those that alter DNA), which is not true.
Concerning the role of mitochondria, there are different studies. Some say that che cancerous cell is always in starving mode because of the increased need for oxygen and that mitochondria become hyperactive. There are many threads of study.
And it is common knowledge that cancer cells have an altered, crazy DNA.

I invite you not to discredit the work of others and spam my posts. I studied pharmacy by the way. I ask politely that you remove your personal attacks torward me and cease with this attitude. If you don't like or don't understand what I contribute to this forum, nobody forces you to be rude or intolerant. I will also remove these lines as we find again reciprocal respect, as this forum deserves.

If somebody is curious about the need for oxygen of cancerous cells, here is a study:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...y-tumours.html

Studies that just say the opposite can be found. For example, it was proposed to kill cancer cells with an excess of oxygen.

When two diverging solutions are both true, it just shows that cancer is very sensitive to preserve its artificial environment. Any change can affect it. The issue is how to induce reliably those changes.

Stanislaw Chmielarz, let's see who this guy is.

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You can think how you want and what you want but the remote frequency interaction works. I built my own generator set and a remote transmitter and carried out the trials on the nails of several people with health problems. It is just as effective in a longer period of time as the treatment with contact electrodes and the effectiveness depends mainly on whether the correct frequency was used. Rife did not know this phenomenon and therefore he did not use it, and besides, there was a completely different state of knowledge and technique, and I personally do not intend to go back to historical times but use currently available knowledge and technology. I don't think that this technology can cure all the diseases alone.

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Spamming threads and bashing other people. He even says he does not follow Rife research because Rife is not the answer to all the diseases. That's because he ONLY has the absolute truth, made his own perfect system and uses people as guinea pigs with no clue of scientific protocols.

"Nails of people with health problems". Oh... nails are a health problem. Which of Rife's evaluated microorganisms is causing problems in nails? Anthrax? Spinal Meningitis? Typhoid fever? He does not even know, because he does not mention it. But his bogus machine (show me your certifications and real lab tests) can cure all.
Certainly, with "the correct [magical] frequency" that he is the only one to have. He will surely sell those frequencies abusing the medical profession and doing unproven (and dangerous) claims.

I must especially praise him for using people as guinea pigs. He really deserves a prize: To see the sky behind bars for the rest of his life. But he knows it all, because even "Rife did not know this phenomenon". I need to bow to his intelligence.

So, he comes to this forum to promote his machines and frequencies, bashing all other people who do not think like him or can be a danger to his business. He has no clue of lab protocols, biology, but he is ready to discredit scientists and anybody who gets in his way. Oh.... a business of bogus and dangerous machines. Who wants to be the next guinea pig?

Now I am curious who will join the chorus to defend their bogus machines and bow in front of Stanislaw. I'm ready to examine their threads and help people understand any unscientific claim I can find.

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Your message has a serious errors;
"it alters proteins and DNA in cancerous cells (as well in normal cells); when cancerous cells, which have an already altered DNA,"
Cancer cells have not an altered DNA. If they have, an immune system have to kill them.

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Another evidence that Stanislaw talks nonsense. It is known since the 50's that cancer is caused by DNA mutations.

https://www.icr.ac.uk/about-us/our-a...age-and-cancer

Stop ridiculing science and bashing people. You are only mocking yourself and your ignorance.

Fabrizio del Tin and Stanislaw Chmielarz, let me remind you both that this forum is open for the respectful exchange of ideas. It is not permitted to make any personal attacks on this forum.

You can argue the merits of ideas, methods and devices, but not use derogatory talking points against your opponent. Those that persist in such behaviour can be removed from the forum.

One has to allow for progress and there are plenty of modern day units with proven track records.


There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance.
Hippocrates

"He who heals is right", is more relevant than ever,

Peter, thanks for intervening. I asked Stanislaw politely to remove his personal attacks and find again reciprocal respect (above in this thread), but he didn't do. Just short ago you already warned him and a group of posters and peace seemed to be restablished, except for Stanislaw, who persists.

It is not possible to have somebody chasing your threads and discredit you all the time in anything you say - and also with completely wrong claims. He does not put it in the tone of information sharing, but he is just bashing people. I invited him, if he does not like what I say or has something against me, just to avoid me, but it didn't work.

I need to point out that this affects my name and image. I always avoided confrontation, but what stays in this forum after personal attacks are those same personal attacks that do not get deleted.

I decided to comment on Stanislaw's threads to show that others can be rude too - when it is enough, it is enough. But I have no interest in continuing a confrontation. So, for me it's over now. But I don't think it's over for Stanislaw, as it keeps happening. I feel limited every time I want to do a post here, because I feel haunted, so one can not even feel free to say/share something.
I think there should be a way to remove offending content.

Concerning the other devices, maybe I have to change the naming to "devices that do not follow the original Rife protocols, but are improperly called Rife's". I don't deal with those, so I didn't expand on that. I didn't mean to include all frequency devices in that definition. I followed my path to modernization too and I think there is plenty of space for improvement of Rife's systems.

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Peter, thanks for intervening. I asked Stanislaw politely to remove his personal attacks and find again reciprocal respect (above in this thread), but he didn't do. Just short ago you already warned him and a group of posters and peace seemed to be restablished, except for Stanislaw, who persists.

It is not possible to have somebody chasing your threads and discredit you all the time in anything you say - and also with completely wrong claims. He does not put it in the tone of information sharing, but he is just bashing people. I invited him, if he does not like what I say or has something against me, just to avoid me, but it didn't work.

I need to point out that this affects my name and image. I always avoided confrontation, but what stays in this forum after personal attacks are those same personal attacks that do not get deleted.

I decided to comment on Stanislaw's threads to show that others can be rude too - when it is enough, it is enough. But I have no interest in continuing a confrontation. So, for me it's over now. But I don't think it's over for Stanislaw, as it keeps happening. I feel limited every time I want to do a post here, because I feel haunted, so one can not even feel free to say/share something.
I think there should be a way to remove offending content.

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Fabrizio, some of your comments about him were problematic as well. Stanislaw reported a number of your posts to me and he also has a point.

The only people who use the term "Quack" are those in the pay of the pharmaceutical lobbies trying to destroy alternative medicine. We do not need such terms here, they serve only to hinder new research and development. You can say a device does not follow Rife's original protocols, but that does not mean it is wrong or bad. It is much more important to see if it works and actually helps people. If users are reporting it cured of their conditions OR as we had some time age with a certain device, that lots of people report they were worse off then before.

The topic of naming devices that are not following Rife's original protocols has long been discussed and we came to a definition that was agreed on:
https://www.rife.de/rife-and-r.i.f.e...s-defined.html

In Germany, where I live, there are tens of thousands of resonance therapy devices using pad electrodes and they have an excellent track record. I am currently translating the book of one of Germany's leading medical doctors using this method, into English. It is an excellent well researched book that will be released in English and Spanish later this year. The devices he uses (BW21 and BW77) are fully medCE certified, so doctors can officially use them.

I tried to edit my post to delete the term "*****" and specify better what I was meaning, but it seems I cannot do it anymore. The button "Edit Post" disappeared. I see it for more recent posts, though.

I have nothing against pad devices. I use some too. It's just not my subject of study, so I cannot say anything about that. It's good that any direction of research is explored and I clap to your translation.

I have corrected your posts for you.

Thank you, Peter

Peter Barta sent you a message

So I've been aware of and been reading about Rife research for 20 years. However, I have 2 full time jobs while simultaneously caring for 2 disabled family members and not had the time nor science background to delve deeply into all the complexities and evaluate them myself. Is there some kind of "Rife Treatment for Dummies" manual or thread that very simply and concisely:

1. Reveals the current "best" device or devices for diagnosing diseases.
2. Reveals the current "best" device or devices for treating diseases diagnosed in the above machine.
3. Provides the simplest, most concise protocol for diagnosed diseases.

After all these years there must be some kind of simple consensus about either "the best" machine -- or at least the top 3, and why.
Thanks.

I second this question. For those of us who don't work in this field and are looking to see if it's a device that offers any benefit. I mean at this point I'm not even asking to see a video of frequencies killing pathogens cuz I know it's never going to happen I'd settle for somebody proving to me it's something beyond just a box with lights. Just when I'm about to spend the cash I always wake up cynical wondering in this day of litigation and liability and restriction is anybody really producing a device that transmits a viable source of energy at a therapeutic level. Thank you for your input.

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Peace be upon Yours All.
Strange, a 100 years ago, german health insurance company, paid also for ordenary labors treatments with the so called violet wand.
Early plasma devices, i still have some sets with many electrodes still working.

My wife uses the comb and the roll, it produces also ozon on the skin.
personally, i am 65 and don´t take any pills, except holy thistle capsules.
Good for my liver, because i had 20 years back hepatitis C.
Some people are sceptical of acupuncture, even it is since 1000th´s of years approved.
Some people try with chemo, don´t change much on livestyle, others see the things holistic and understand the complexity.
It might be rare or maybe impossible to get cancer just today and tomorrow it will be diagnosed.
It is a longer process and can have different sources, it is important, to find out wether poisons (also destructive waves) in the environment or some organism, fungi or other.
Sometimes they play all together after some time.
I only can preach it to everyone, that pure water, at least clean water, is essential to get cured.
Maybe the following post is also helpful to trust more in that type of therapy
https://www.rifeforum.com/forum/thre...ll=1#post53079
Sincerely
** Ali **

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So I've been aware of and been reading about Rife research for 20 years. However, I have 2 full time jobs while simultaneously caring for 2 disabled family members and not had the time nor science background to delve deeply into all the complexities and evaluate them myself. Is there some kind of "Rife Treatment for Dummies" manual or thread that very simply and concisely:

1. Reveals the current "best" device or devices for diagnosing diseases.
2. Reveals the current "best" device or devices for treating diseases diagnosed in the above machine.
3. Provides the simplest, most concise protocol for diagnosed diseases.

After all these years there must be some kind of simple consensus about either "the best" machine -- or at least the top 3, and why.
Thanks.

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All currently produced Rife machines are just light boxes. Even the MOPA, a good reproduction of a Rife machine, is not tuned to the right plasma tube and will therefore achieve nothing.
Manufacturers fail to produce any evidence or scientifically acceptable proof.

The only 2 bets that may be considered, in my view, are the MOPA and Rife/Bare machines, but they need a proper tuning to increase efficiency.

Nevertheless, there is some serious research, but to my knowledge only experimental setups.

The best thing that resembles a Rife machine and works is the old violet ray. Plenty of documentation on that.

If the violet wand is refurbished and optimized, it can also dissolve cancer via electroporation and species, just google.

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All currently produced Rife machines are just light boxes. Even the MOPA, a good reproduction of a Rife machine, is not tuned to the right plasma tube and will therefore achieve nothing.
Manufacturers fail to produce any evidence or scientifically acceptable proof.

The only 2 bets that may be considered, in my view, are the MOPA and Rife/Bare machines, but they need a proper tuning to increase efficiency.

Nevertheless, there is some serious research, but to my knowledge only experimental setups.

The best thing that resembles a Rife machine and works is the old violet ray. Plenty of documentation on that.

If the violet wand is refurbished and optimized, it can also dissolve cancer via electroporation and species, just google.

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Fabrizio, I heartily disagree that "all currently produced Rife machines are just light boxes." I have observed and experienced, first-hand, plenty of cures and reversals of symptoms. I don't understand why you want to be on a list whose participants have often experienced good to excellent results with Rife Therapy, if you don't think that the CURRENT technology is valid.

I state this in many places in my new Rife Handbook, but will repeat it here: The reason that (in your words) "Manufacturers fail to produce any evidence or scientifically acceptable proof" is that at least here in the United States, manufacturers and sellers are legally prevented from making any claims. That aside, it's not quite true that ALL manufactures "fail to produce any evidence." For example, Pulsed Technologies has a research arm in Romania and has verified that its P3 Pro unit has killed Candida albicans when certain frequencies are used. (The frequencies are in Chapter 5 of my book and are available with every machine that Pulsed Technologies sells.) Whenever I do speaking engagements, I show the Candida slides from Pulsed Technologies. This company does lots of medical research, in fact, but they can't publicize it in the United States because anyone who does real medicine is muzzled. Only Big Pharma, with its poisonous chemicals, is allowed to flourish.

Many people wish to claim that only they have the true answer to cure/heal/prevent [fill in the blank with your favorite disease], but there are many ways to induce healing. I think you are doing a disservice to people--especially to newcomers who don't yet have information--when you claim that modern equipment doesn't work. This is not what I have heard from Dr. Loyd, who has given Rife Therapy to plenty of people with cancer using a variety of machines, when he constantly reports results. As for myself, I have used both the P3 Pro from Pulsed Technologies and the PERL-M from Resonant Light with good results--for me personally, for human and animal members of my family, and for friends. This includes a doctor couple who several years ago borrowed one of my machines and left it running for several days on 40,000 Hz. She had the best night's sleep she'd had in three years.

So please, Fabrizio, don't speak for me and I won't presume to speak for you about your own personal experiences. Agreed?

Nenah Sylver, PhD

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Peace be upon Yours All.

Sometimes people are not sensitiv or skilled enough to tune there systems.
For some people, it will be only a fancy lamp, but some people are able to take benefits even from a Aurorasky Plasma Ball, just knowing how.
Some People own a Ferrari, it don´t mean that they know how to drive it better than a Fiat 500s.
To know which one is the best, give me the money and some more time i will find it out, if The Most High is willing.

Sincerely
** Ali **

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Originally Posted by David Shore

So I've been aware of and been reading about Rife research for 20 years. However, I have 2 full time jobs while simultaneously caring for 2 disabled family members and not had the time nor science background to delve deeply into all the complexities and evaluate them myself. Is there some kind of "Rife Treatment for Dummies" manual or thread that very simply and concisely:

1. Reveals the current "best" device or devices for diagnosing diseases.
2. Reveals the current "best" device or devices for treating diseases diagnosed in the above machine.
3. Provides the simplest, most concise protocol for diagnosed diseases.

After all these years there must be some kind of simple consensus about either "the best" machine -- or at least the top 3, and why.
Thanks.

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First of all, the analysers are superfluous "fancier" gear that just does the same sweep and machine will and makes very detailed and elaborate reports about the frequencies they picked up. $100 toy going for 33,000 on the basis of more detailed reports and more things identified better, I am given to believe.

We are scanning and comparing results to physical diagnosis. Its a matter of the way the unit detects and takes some intuiting to put ones finger on it - tentatively. The analyser we have has 4 "therapy" settings which consist of buttons 1, 2, 3 & 4....with a lower/higher description in the manual, but no live readout of the frequency list or what frequencies the buttons run.

I am US and grew up in the "show me" state and I have to have, like that other fellow doing his dissertation, as many examples of what can be replicated by others to see for their selves. Doctors technically are not endorsers of what they have not "seen with their eyes and held in their hands" because most all literature now in the States is pure pay to say sales and social manipulating. One has to dissect everything to rule on every point. They had US giving out cholesterol "gimmick" like candy and then it became the trickery of "anti depressants". Covid is the most glaring example of predatory exploitation and patient meaninglessness i have lived to see? It destroyed my attachment to commoners and plebes, because the sense of "fair" and "advantage guilt" were almost as big to me as my success record and own further upping*

But I digress
The current best diagnosing device that is least theoretical is the sweep of hits the selfsame treatment units perform and looking up those for further reference. The analysers are luxuries and some are a nice looking unit, but if I took it to the hospital, its status is "fun curious gadget?" Until i see those 200 scans that were even close and physically verified.
I do believe there is a future....we are far from there and in the realm of learning and primitive machines.
It is "best" because you already paid for and own it and usually has a "run hits" feature. Best also because the others are essentially the same and its our enjoyment of screen displays and reading details that chooses?

I want to lay the frex16 scan results, this analyser results and one of these $30,000 units....I need to see and compare what the difference and its value for the gap of 29,899? Then i can say something more than "seems like" and "what's the puzzler is.."

The best is not easy to define.
Power and bulbs? Spectrotek, bill's lovely art bulbs and frex16 or other, Dr Bare's table top unit... I have never had or seen in person the GB/MOPA but it had a good reputation
Utility and accessories? BCX Ultra is like it was made for drs directly treating bodies one after the other.

User friendly? Aliixor, spectrotek - looks are not much and dang if they don't make them all look slick :)

Best pre sets and protocols - Hymbas, BCX ultra deluxe so far? I pick it up and go "Hmm HMMM!" like precious pup with a biscuit. There was one on ebay half price.

People with shorter budgets see the spectrotek/bill's/frex16 - much more power than the $100 generators from that one bunch.

Sorry for these ramblings. I see as i go that all "do something" it is the person and the power/application they desire. I've got BCX and buying spectro....rest is the particulars of aesthetic, portability & etc?


The other "user friendly with all the gadgets I will not endorse even though we have a pile of it here and utilize it* - the company is rapacious, awkward when spoken to by adult and my main concern has always been accuracy. I have heard more than one "bit of a time getting frequencies accurate".....i lack trust there altogether of the whole hippie fronted communist source. I dislike being spoken to as if i was 10 and learning obedience too and there is a HUGE gap in business or partnering with any of that lot, by their clumsy greed and attempts to rake you good with that particular aspect of their "authoritarianism" and you "obey!"
I just very clearly told them what terms were acceptable and call me back when they get that.
3 well spaced call backs with another volley....stubborn and not paying them that for $5 of radio shack in a groovy plastic case? Can keep answering calls "oh thank you very much!" but already pursuing an American made line of the same thing? Not rife...spa equipment

Hi Nenah, I never speak for you, I just speak from my experience.

Usually, I use a very precise wording. Scientifically acceptable does not mean showing a slide that a supposed frequency killed a pathogen, or that one "feels" better.

You know the placebo effect and microbes have a very short lifespan anyways. So, was it really the frequency or something else? Where are the results of the control? How do we know that it was exactly that frequency and another frequency does not work? What is the mechanism? What is the success rate demonstrated with a blind study? Is it replicable?

I truly don't believe much in the conspiration theories. Just do the things how they should be done and they will be accepted.
I'm not aware of papers on cold plasma or electroporation that are forbidden, hidden or rejected in the U.S. Indeed, there are many new patents on Rife related technology.

I kindly disagree that am doing a disservice to people, as pointing out a lack of scientific evidence should bring up those questions that are for the benefit of all.
I don't have a conflict of interest either, as currently I just do pure research. I sell no books, no machines. If you claim that someone is doing a disservice, you must see your conflict of interest first.

So, we will just live with different opinions. I have found valid people in this forum with whom I share some research and opinions. Others have different ideas.

I had the idea, some day, to develop a website where everyone could contribute his lab tests, healing protocols, results. Forms and questions should be developed so that it may have scientific value. As you understand, "I feel good" or it heals my "nail, insomnia, itch, pointy nose, fill in the blank", which unfortunately seems to be the preferred way of most manufacturers, can actually harm people.

Research must follow protocols, people are not Guinea pigs. So, that's why I just do research and shared a lot of results on this forum freely. I see so many people claiming such unbelievable results and showing none. Or showing nothing that is scientifically acceptable, as I said.

Finally, just to point out a subtlety. Research needs a lab. That a doctor uses Rife therapy, it does not contribute much to research, as he does not have the facilities to do it. Of course, it can give an indication for further investigation, but that's it. Then, there are those who are satisfied, and those who want to understand more. My opinion, of course.

lord anybody near alamogordo, just come play with them all a bit and get a feel for the differences and all would be clear. I am working on a showroom for drs now that the FDA doesn' t smash us for it. I can put together turn-key setups for them by specialty and speak the language in our terms? Companies are a little slow to pick up on that....but less partners, more for me is ok too?
It is always a bit of a struggle explaining well and the question is frequent here

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I second this question. For those of us who don't work in this field and are looking to see if it's a device that offers any benefit. I mean at this point I'm not even asking to see a video of frequencies killing pathogens cuz I know it's never going to happen I'd settle for somebody proving to me it's something beyond just a box with lights. Just when I'm about to spend the cash I always wake up cynical wondering in this day of litigation and liability and restriction is anybody really producing a device that transmits a viable source of energy at a therapeutic level. Thank you for your input.

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https://altered-states.net/index2.php look down page for parameceum murder video

Rifevideos.com has a lot of info that might help

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Oh I dont think anything I know its a hoax. A hoax being perpetrated to discredit and devalue legitimate Rife Therapy. I mean if what was said about remote therapy was true youd be hitting millions of people based on skin cells in dust particles alone. Remote healing is quackery.

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I did find this?
https://rifevideos.com/chapter_20_ri..._distance.html
It is a rebuttal attempting to comb the issue out

Well that's fairly depressing. So even a Bare can't do the job unless it's hacked properly? That's how far we've come?

HI.
In my opinion, yes, Rife's machine can beat cancer.
There can be no protocol, since cancer is a strictly individual disease. If you take two identical people with the same diagnosis, then the disease in each will proceed differently. This depends on what kind of symbiosis of pathogenic microbes caused the disease and what kind of immunity and state of the body a person has at the moment. A tumor is a symbiosis (cohabitation) of different microbes together.
Cancer is a parasitic disease. And this was proven at the beginning and middle of the last century. As Professor M.M. Nevyadomsky, oncology is just a branch of parasitology!
For successful treatment, a complete diagnosis of the body is needed for pathogenic microflora. And this is the main problem. For example, the SV40-virus cannot be diagnosed either in Ukraine or in Russia. And it (SV40) is found in many tumors and leukemia and lymphoma.
The same problem with pathogenic fungi. I have about 30 species on my list. And there is no way to diagnose them all.
In my opinion, in terms of technical characteristics, I would choose GB-4000 and MOPA + CP-4 would not be superfluous either.
This is not an advertisement - this is just my opinion!
After diagnostics, we first destroy parasites and protozoa, then fungi, bacteria and viruses. Also daily detoxification and a lot of other support programs.
That's the whole protocol.

I can not honestly say? The reason is because i use plasma/rife in conjunction with 12-15 other cancer or infection agents and never tried to completely discern.
Like the Italian fellow said, we talk great and have a use for each others notes - but my goal is the patient (making me look good) and i imagine for someone trying to write down that music, it would be impossible. Just like trying to keep a patient alive in a research model would be.

Plasma/rife i love for life....but I throw every lightning bolt and cascade of weaponry i have that applies to that case.

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I have observed and experienced, first-hand, plenty of cures and reversals of symptoms.
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Pulsed Technologies has a research arm in Romania and has verified that its P3 Pro unit has killed Candida albicans when certain frequencies are used. Whenever I do speaking engagements, I show the Candida slides from Pulsed Technologies. This company does lots of medical research, in fact, but they can't publicize it in the United States ...

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With all due respect, in 25 years I saw no collation of clinical data for frequency devices online or in published literature. I got the impression the old Baytah project fizzled out, and the uninformed gossip I heard was some devices had good reports on Lyme, but a dud for cancer.

If somebody wants to share data with me to contradict that sceptical gossip, don't be shy !!!!!

Your paragraphs on Candida sound like a breakthrough. The gossip I heard was we had nothing but failure. There are plenty of countries outside USA where the Candida work could be investigated in replication experiments. Sometimes outsider labs don't do the protocols correctly. So by all means get your colleagues to instruct the correct methods by video or on zoom.

A sceptic here might say it's all about selling yet another expensive book or device and that's all it's about. So prove them wrong !!!!! Get it into Nature journal or Lancet or any journal at all.

If your collabators just fried these bugs using a wire inserted into the sample, I won't be impressed with that unless a nearby frequency is demonstrated to fail. Putting a manufacturer in charge of an investigation is like putting a fox in charge of the hen house, hence the proposal to outsource that work.

How to find a collaborating lab willing to pay their own costs ??? Put up a project description on researchgate site. But the manufacturer must be willing to loan or donate the frequency device.

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I can not honestly say? The reason is because i use plasma/rife in conjunction with 12-15 other cancer or infection agents and never tried to completely discern.
Like the Italian fellow said, we talk great and have a use for each others notes - but my goal is the patient (making me look good) and i imagine for someone trying to write down that music, it would be impossible. Just like trying to keep a patient alive in a research model would be.

Plasma/rife i love for life....but I throw every lightning bolt and cascade of weaponry i have that applies to that case.

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Life is a terminal illness with 100% mortality rate. The prognosis for many cancers is so poor, it would not matter if cured patients had 20 different therapies, provided you also show all the data for your dead patients too. 80 % mortality is twice as good as 90% mortality.

Meta analysis was applied to the old data of Holt here in Australia on microwave hyperthermia. It can be done on any good collation. I understand chiropractors and casual therapists are not in a position to do that alone. Many rife practicioners express fear and loathing of GP doctors. But if professionals sign off on the standard 2 year and 5 year survival data, all the meta analysis needs to do is divide that into age and sex cohorts and bingo you have a publishable result. But some of us hate and fear researchers and peer reviewed journals also. Ok not all practicioners need to participate. 2 and 5 year data in collaboration with a family doctor is a lot to ask, I get that. And it doesn't disprove Spirulina is the cure, unless you can analyse notations on the extra therapies tried.

Even with a standard proforma it really is too much to ask in this Tower of Babel forum. Actually medicos had no data 200 years ago but they did have grapevine gossip. Lancet journal was full of anecdotals on individual cases. If some therapy worked well, the efficacy was obvious. But if it's a subtle improvement of survival score, you need modern statistical methods to prove your claim.

Btw this was done with oncotherm in Germany. But it was run by pros thus easy peasy.

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Well that's fairly depressing. So even a Bare can't do the job unless it's hacked properly? That's how far we've come?

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Bare has a line of research with Antony Holland and can prove things to work, but exact frequencies and modalities are not published, as obviously research costs.

Does it work like original Rife machines? No. Does it have 100% success rate? No. Not even 90%. It has enough that it may show interest though. It's just in the research phase.

What happens with Rife machines is that devices with big claims are manufactured before a research is completed. Science requires just the opposite. Otherwise, you do not really knowing what you are doing.

Bursting a paramecium in vitro is cool. But again, where is the blind study, the control, the verification against other frequency?
For example, it is my opinion that all frequencies would work same. Can someone prove that's not the case?

Hi!
We have two supporters of conducting certification research for frequency machines. I would like to read what standards will these researchers refer to and what test procedures during the research and evaluation of results? I happened to prepare the device for testing before obtaining approval and a patent, but I knew exactly what scope of measurements would be performed and under what conditions. Please provide me with such standards for testing the effectiveness of cancer treatment when there are so many factors involved, which the previous speaker (Yuriy) wrote about, such as the physical condition of the patient, the mental condition of the patient and how it will affect the test results. Of course, you can choose for example lung cancer patients, only each case will be different for the reasons described above and the type / type of cancer. I propose generic tests, such as the in vitro test performed by Doug Coil's creator on a Petri dish for Lyme spirochete, which test and its method of execution can be described in detail. Unfortunately, this test, due to its pleomorphic properties of a spirochette, does not guarantee complete recovery after the first in vivo treatment. So I do not see any possibility to reliably test the frequency device in the treatment of cancer. When it comes to single parasites, pathogens, it can be done in vitro, which unfortunately does not translate into in vivo results for many reasons. The human body and the organisms of laboratory animals is not an airplane and a miniature airplane tested in the aerodynamic channel and there is no exact translation of the results of such tests.
As I wrote earlier, it is possible to perform in vivo tests with the use of computerized Vega-test equipment, only if it is reliable can only confirm the results of therapy with a given device and the frequency of emission. As it results from my information from the therapist working, this method with the emission made by contact electrodes and induction loops and the patient (my daughter-in-law), the therapy is effective, but not immediate.

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Peace be upon Yours All.
I suffered from fibromyalgia, this was diagnosed in a university hospital.
My condition was so bad, that i needed two hours every morning to get my bones moved.
It was not possible for me to open a bag or a bottle. No power and too much pain in the muscles.
I could walk 50 m distance, i had to sit down. My live started to dimmish.
I prayd to The Most High: "Please take away this evil what i feel and what i see.
The feedback was: "get a microscope and look into your blood".
I learned to see and how to act with frequency and plasma therapy.
Now i am free of fibromyalgia.
We say in germany: "wer heilt hat recht" (who cures is right).
I don´t have anything to sell.
Science, HA HA HA, In the DSM5 Dictionary for mental sickness is written, that people believe in The Most High or in the hereafter are mental ill.
Some are so ignorant and arrogant, they believe in such dictionary.
This type of corrupted science, sorry, i give a big pile of shit on it.
I showed in this Forum videos with organism, looking like red blood cells and able to throw threads like caterpillar.
Even doctors i showed, but the only reaction is "interesting".
This type of organism can cause big damage to the body, when they agglutinate, under stress.
Why are people so ignorant and don´t understand that the invivo observation with the microscope is essential.
How could mankind become so stupid and blind, just trusting labs? Is it scientific to send a sample only to one lab? sorry i would not trust.
Short time ago, we sendet a stool sample into a lab.
The consistence was like a stone.
When we got the results, there was written about the consistence of the sample was soft.
Signed by a doctor.
This was not the first time i came across such curiosity.
You can´t trust!!!! in that kind of science. Sorry.
Here the video, tell me what organism, my opinion, a adult plasmodium.
The Video is in 1080p please change the settings


Sincerely
** Ali **

Ali, you might feel that a frequency cured you, but you cannot be certain. Science is your friend to help you know if it was really due to the frequency.

I will enumerate just a few points that make your account doubtful.

1. Illnesses have their due course. Maybe you healed because it was time to heal and not because of the frequency. Where is the control subject to figure this out? That is more people with similar illness, some untreated, some treated in different ways, etc.
2. The fact that you are so hyped about Rife is already a strong placebo effect that may influence outcome. We need subjects that are not biased to get data that are certain.
3. Your healing conclusion is already flawed, as you did not just use a frequency to heal. You also used prayer. We know that prayer is a powerful healing tool that can surpass medicine. Was it a frequency or prayer? What else did you do or take that could influence the outcome?

Unless we have pure and verified data, such accounts contribute nothing, unfortunately. We need a protocol so that all can follow.

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Peace be upon Yours All.
I suffered from fibromyalgia, this was diagnosed in a university hospital.
My condition was so bad, that i needed two hours every morning to get my bones moved.
It was not possible for me to open a bag or a bottle. No power and too much pain in the muscles.
I could walk 50 m distance, i had to sit down. My live started to dimmish.
I prayd to The Most High: "Please take away this evil what i feel and what i see.
The feedback was: "get a microscope and look into your blood".
I learned to see and how to act with frequency and plasma therapy.
Now i am free of fibromyalgia.
We say in germany: "wer heilt hat recht" (who cures is right).
I don´t have anything to sell.
Science, HA HA HA, In the DSM5 Dictionary for mental sickness is written, that people believe in The Most High or in the hereafter are mental ill.
Some are so ignorant and arrogant, they believe in such dictionary.
This type of corrupted science, sorry, i give a big pile of shit on it.
I showed in this Forum videos with organism, looking like red blood cells and able to throw threads like caterpillar.
Even doctors i showed, but the only reaction is "interesting".
This type of organism can cause big damage to the body, when they agglutinate, under stress.
Why are people so ignorant and don´t understand that the invivo observation with the microscope is essential.
How could mankind become so stupid and blind, just trusting labs? Is it scientific to send a sample only to one lab? sorry i would not trust.
Short time ago, we sendet a stool sample into a lab.
The consistence was like a stone.
When we got the results, there was written about the consistence of the sample was soft.
Signed by a doctor.
This was not the first time i came across such curiosity.
You can´t trust!!!! in that kind of science. Sorry.
Here the video, tell me what organism, my opinion, a adult plasmodium.
The Video is in 1080p please change the settings


Sincerely
** Ali **

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Hi Fabrizio, Peace be upon You and Yours All.
You can´t imagine how many bloodsamples i have examined, how many hours i sat on the microscope.
I know how to make the organism visible, chase them out of there hiding.
Of course i did not work thru like a egoshooter.
No, i learned, that frequency therapy can weaken pathogens and immune modulate the system.
What do You think why this leucos so behind that i call the plasmodium in that video?
Only because they got informed and instructed.
My goal is not to kill, but to clean and regenerate. Everything in the Universe matters, also the so called pathogen.
This fields do exactly what i whant. Not from today to tomorrow but some days later.
My prayer and its feedback, was the inspiration to look into my own blood. With other words, to take a much deeper look inside.
Not to look into the body liquids of a patient is somehow ignorant.
The modern doctors are blind, they don´t no anymore, just take labs away. Nowadays, You will not find much doctors anymore, taking a look into the eyes or tongue, they don´t know to read the skin and the nails, many of them don´t know.
So what, science is just a other kind of religion, having many believers and followers.
They are good in prophecy, that the cancer rate will encrease till 2025, even how much %, so what.
UN Agenda 2030 how it shall come together?
Sincerely
** Ali **

"Btw this was done with oncotherm in Germany. But it was run by pros thus easy peasy."

Well....easy peasey.....it is a little nervy driving that train? "Controlled cooking" them is a nimble affair for what can happen. That one made me laugh. I got their brain in my hands waiting for the train to derail on me and trying to watch 5 gauges at once in a self-generated trance of focused intent. Haha. But? I do make it "look" easy peasey?
For me it is....in a nascar race kind of way...but that tickled me

"The prognosis for many cancers is so poor, it would not matter if cured patients had 20 different therapies, provided you also show all the data for your dead patients too. 80 % mortality is twice as good as 90% mortality."

Not in our country?
The "and you get 5 years!" gaffe is atrocious. That is because they destroyed them with rad and chemo and never clean em up.....SCAM and insult too.

I tell them there is no limit known and check often. If they have any trouble, they come back.

But ALL of what you present is "pubmed" = sh*t con job

None of that is even relevant in private care, because it is just narrative to support an industry - and clearly? A population management method that competes with ours.

I do not have a lot of dead patients? I have always enjoyed high success rates and some? I do not know? If they do not respond rapidly to me, i do not "treat them unto death" I talk to them about conventional measures, the "5 years!" and that i will make sure and take the chemo and rad back out.....boom! 20 years?

So do not even try to pass off canadian chicken chucking as reliable medical information to me and think I am a poor hopeful potato. Most all that is not true at all here....unless they go to "free care" and what did they expect?

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With all due respect, in 25 years I saw no collation of clinical data for frequency devices online or in published literature. I got the impression the old Baytah project fizzled out, and the uninformed gossip I heard was some devices had good reports on Lyme, but a dud for cancer.

If somebody wants to share data with me to contradict that sceptical gossip, don't be shy !!!!!

Your paragraphs on Candida sound like a breakthrough. The gossip I heard was we had nothing but failure. There are plenty of countries outside USA where the Candida work could be investigated in replication experiments. Sometimes outsider labs don't do the protocols correctly. So by all means get your colleagues to instruct the correct methods by video or on zoom.

A sceptic here might say it's all about selling yet another expensive book or device and that's all it's about. So prove them wrong !!!!! Get it into Nature journal or Lancet or any journal at all.

If your collabators just fried these bugs using a wire inserted into the sample, I won't be impressed with that unless a nearby frequency is demonstrated to fail. Putting a manufacturer in charge of an investigation is like putting a fox in charge of the hen house, hence the proposal to outsource that work.

How to find a collaborating lab willing to pay their own costs ??? Put up a project description on researchgate site. But the manufacturer must be willing to loan or donate the frequency device.

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Alan,

I don't have the time to pursue this in the exact manner that it appears you are asking for. However, I suggest you contact the owners of the various equipment companies and ask them if they have done research, where, and by whom, etc. Explain why you want such research and what you plan to do with it.

Please keep in mind that your demand for a "collation of clinical data for frequency devices online or in published literature" from the manufacturers themselves (or sellers) is illegal in the United States. The FDA, owned by Big Pharma, has prohibited this. Any manufacturer or seller of frequency equipment can be fined and/or imprisoned for making claims and providing scientific evidence, even if those studies were done by an independent third party laboratory. Your demand for "a collation of clinical data . . . in published literature"--if by "published literature" you mean medical journals--is likewise problematic. Medical journals have been taken over by the pharmaceutical companies, which don't want anyone to publicize non-invasive and effective competition with their drugs. It's very difficult to get a valid scientific study of frequency therapy published in a medical journal. Many journal editors are outright hostile to frequency therapy. I recall that years ago, a study conducted on a frequency machine was about to be published in a medical journal, and then at the last minute it was pulled. (Don't ask me for any more information because this was a long time ago and I simply don't remember the details.)

Nonetheless, there are thousands of studies that have managed to make it into medical journals on the use of electromagnetically delivered frequencies, electricity, and magnetic fields in medicine. Most of them concentrate on pain relief, and on healing tissue and bone. Occasionally, they do discuss disabling microbes but it's usually in conjunction with the use of pharmaceuticals. These studies avoid using the terms "Rife" or "Rife Therapy" because that would certainly mean a rejection of publication. Appendix D of my Rife Handbook lists just a few of these studies, according to year--one of them dating back to 1968. Plus, some really interesting books on electromedicine date back to the 1800s. For your convenience, I have attached it to my reply.

Sincerely,
Nenah

The conspiration theory or that studies are prevented in the U.S. is all bull shit. I wouldn't buy a book that revolves around those claims. Better to go to reliable literature, which easily disproves those claims. This for example:



I think people should be tired of manufacturers that do no test and have no data, because that's usually the truth. And we know that there are so many unsubstantiated claims. It is very obvious that, if you try to patent or publish a paper so send a rocket to the moon fueled by pizza, everybody will laugh and you will get your application rejected. Do a correct research, and all will accept it.

The entire electromagnetic field is well studied and it is known what it can do and what it cannot. Any other thing is just a mystification to sell books or devices. I noticed that device manufacturers are usually very eager to make things that do not work, hiding on the claims of others. There is a clear reason for this: If it does not work, it's the guilt of the user, as he is mistaking the frequencies or using the machine wrong. If it works, by some miracle, it's a proof that the manufacturer will exhibit.
But... if a manufacturer would have a really working machine, that would be a problem. This is because a machine that works, will not just work on microbes, but will also affect somewhat the user. As with every medicine, if you just mistake dosage, you can kill. Will a manufacturer take this risk and get sued if something goes wrong? No, better to have a machine that does nothing, so it is safe. That's the current status of manufactured "Rife machines", and that's why the scientific community is against it. Rightfully, it tries to shut down an illegal business that is living on people's despair, to rip them off.

Of course, not everyone is on the same boat. Some, but too few, do serious research. The issue is that most are uneducated or live in their world, disconnected from the rest of the people (read, scientific community).

After you analyze the good and extensive scientific documentation on the subject, you will see that original Rife machines could do much more that that. Therefore, electromagnetism and frequencies are not the only means that he used. And this is where I do my own research.

I add a screenshot from the books above, which show the study of electromagnetic fields also in cancer cases.

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https://altered-states.net/index2.php look down page for parameceum murder video

Rifevideos.com has a lot of info that might help

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Who is the author/owner of Rifevideos.com? Thanks.

Hi!
Nobody thinks that it is about some conspiracy theories and mainly about the money that pharmaceutical companies can lose if it turns out that many diseases can be cured effectively (not only by masking the symptoms as they do now) and the companies would not earn anything on it. Only people paid for by these companies disparage any other way that causes their sponsors to lose their earnings. From my backyard: I wanted to work with a hospice where various cancer patients are waiting for death. Initially, I proposed a test of my ionic silver for bedsores and other skin problems of patients. I was refused because the doctor, who is paid by the state and on whom the state subsidy depends, did not allow the use of this preparation because there is no appropriate certification and nurses are allowed only to use what the doctor recommends.
Privately, many people use my preparation because it helps with skin problems and mucous membranes.
Coming back to the topic, I believe that a frequency machine can cure cancer effectively, but certainly not all devices, conditions and types of cancer. You can also cure cancer without such devices. You just need to know its weak points - Achilles heels.

Neenah said : Nonetheless, there are thousands of studies that have managed to make it into medical journals on the use of electromagnetically delivered frequencies, electricity, and magnetic fields in medicine.

...... Mmmkay no argument there from me.

I would be glad to review the yeast protocol. But I have a funny feeling that scrutiny would not be welcome, even tho I am outside USA, don't work for FDA, and have a Researchgate profile and PhD on RF Bioeffects.

PM me we can arrange something by email.

The manufacturer claims are not your responsibility ? Technically that's true. But why not take it to the next level ? Who could it harm ? I am less sceptical than government employees but I can't just believe a video. I need to review the concepts for apparatus and bio protocols to determine if it's the real deal.

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Don't know em - you should look that one up on the site

"The conspiration theory or that studies are prevented in the U.S. is all bull shit.

Not as much bullshit as that pathetic opening volley of another one of your all garlic eminence fronts! Haha!
Playing the childish switch tactic, when everybody knows very clearly it has nothing to do with research, was the end of your entire presentation. I respond poorly to being treated the pumpkin at a c level debate in the first place.

"I wouldn't buy a book that revolves around those claims. Better to go to reliable literature, which easily disproves those claims. This for example:"

We have those books and I will take your surely remote location and quaintness, as an excuse for rank ignorance of that, instead of thinking it just another thinly veiled oppotunity to insult everyone and affirm your (slippery) eminence. That would be so droll after all.

"The entire electromagnetic field is well studied and it is known what it can do and what it cannot.
Someone once told me that when someone passed a great giant steaming stinker, the only thing one can do is let it ferment there......tactics tactics tactics

(I confess, it was when i hit the "empirical evidence" of "shill or blowhardy wannbe?" that I used the excuse of porcene persona to succumb to my own awful personality and surgically point out my obvious "holes" in that research? For they seem like repetative circular A holes mostly and my frequencies resonated......pardon me and bon soi)

Gosh, slippery eminence. This is pure poetry.

I got the impression forum members are expected not to turn debates into insult contests . It gives the readers indigestion . When you question. Whether flatulance is politically correct. Or what the heck. To say any old thing that enters your head . Instead . Of following forum decorum . I can walk down the ghetto street any day to hear trash talk. In fact when I open the garbage bin I hear the trash talk. But hey, some days it really stinks. That's what I thinks. Anyway.

I quickly scanned the site in the obvious places but couldn't find the info.

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Hi!
We have two supporters of conducting certification research for frequency machines. I would like to read what standards will these researchers refer to and what test procedures during the research and evaluation of results?...
Please provide me with such standards for testing the effectiveness of cancer treatment when there are so many factors involved, which the previous speaker (Yuriy) wrote about, such as the physical condition of the patient, the mental condition of the patient and how it will affect the test results. Of course, you can choose for example lung cancer patients, only each case will be different for the reasons described above and the type / type of cancer. [snip]

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Stanislaw, thank you for posting your thoughts on this.

In reality, Dr. Milbank Johnson's 1934 cancer project at La Jolla was a group of case studies, not a true clinical trial. Even in those years, researchers knew the difference, which is significant.

The modern challenges to performing a clinical trial involving people with cancer, are tremendous. For starters, about the study design: a) finding enough study participants and control persons; b) is agency approval required; c) is a separate person needed to statistically analyze data; d) is lab equipment needed to document results; e) is the scope of a proposed study so wide that it becomes impossible to do everything in one study.

Then there are possible confounding factors that could skew the results: a) type of cancer; b) stage of cancer; c) immune status; d) age and sex.

Finally, it can be difficult to get results published, even if a study is finished. If there is a lot of money spent on a study and it is not done well, it will get torn apart faster than scavengers on a dead animal.

Many people's expectations that data should be available by now, 86 years after the La Jolla "clinical trial", is understandable. But Rife did not propose or run that trial, Johnson did. And Johnson said in a letter that the results were not yet conclusive. The 1934 "trial" has undoubtedly been overblown in its significance.

Probably the best that could be done at this juncture, unless significant funding were available, would be to report cancer "case studies" with as much detail as possible, without revealing personal information. Even then, it might require permission of the person using frequencies.

It might be much easier to do in-vitro lab work on certain pathogens, probably bacteria. And it would probably be wise to initially choose non-pathogenic bacteria, species that don't have a lot of variance (which would for instance rule out E. coli). If pathogenic bacteria were used, appropriate training would be needed for handling.

It's so good to have high expectations; it is easy to complain not enough is happening. But carrying out such projects is demanding of money, time, knowledge, and energy. And they require lots of planning. I have a relative that advises doctors and groups on designing reliable studies. When I talk with that person about these issues, it's enough to make one's head spin.

Best wishes,
Charlene Boehm

I should clarify one thought that I wrote in my previous message, "It might be much easier to do in-vitro lab work on certain pathogens, probably bacteria. And it would probably be wise to initially choose non-pathogenic bacteria, species that don't have a lot of variance (which would for instance rule out E. coli)."

There is a strain of non-pathogenic Escherichia coli available, so that might work for lab testing if proper lab procedures are used which avoid contamination from other pathogenic E. coli strains.

Charlene Boehm

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I quickly scanned the site in the obvious places but couldn't find the info.

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Hello David,

Some older versions of the paper have this information:

Written by: Jeff Garff
AAA Production Inc.
Copyright © 2003 & 2008
www.rifevideos.com

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Written by: J. Garff
Copyright © 2003 & 2010
All rights reserved.

Hope the information is helpful for you.

Charlene Boehm

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Peace be upon Yours All.
I stand up for the E. coli Bacterium, our Friend.

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How the E. coli Bacterium Can Benefit Us
The bacterium Escherichia coli is often thought of as a pathogen, but it’s typically found in the intestine as a regular part of gut flora. New work by researchers at the University of Colorado Boulder has now shown that it’s a vital part of that microbial community because it helps cells absorb iron, an essential nutrient. Reported in Cell, this study sheds light on how gut bacteria are beneficial to our health, and may also improve therapeutics that aim to treat iron deficiencies.

Read more
https://www.labroots.com/trending/mi...terium-benefit

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Sincerely
** Ali **

Hi!
E. Coli bacteria do not harm us if it is only where it should be, i.e. in the intestines. If the intestinal walls are overrun by fungi or other pathogens that damage the intestinal walls, then this bacteria and other bacteria can enter the bloodstream and then harm us. Sitting in the intestines, they do a beneficial job for our body, and they are said to also produce H2O2, which is ammunition for white blood cells.

Hi

Novocure, maybe known to all of you, uses electric fields (for example 1V/cm internally) with dedicated frequencies (below 200KHz and with relative large tolerances) to increase survival time of cancer patients. They are doing multiple studies in different countries, for example in 5 different clinics in Belgium I am aware off. They have much material published.
Yesterday (10December 2020) they made this announcement about serious clinical investigations:
https://www.novocure.com/first-patient-enrolled-in-novocures-global-phase-3-trident-trial-of-optune-concurrent-with-radiation-therapy-in-newly-diagnosed-glioblastoma/


Besides all that activity and studies, they are also working on reducing bacteria and virus growth at higher frequency ranges; although there is not much published material available yet, you can find some information in patent application US20200016399A1.

https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20200016399.pdf

They have also found that the efficiency of frequency therapy reduces during its long term use. See patent application US20200306531A1

https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20200306531.pdf

I thought James Bare wrote also about this effect in the past.

They also found that changing frequencies and amplitudes elevates the efficiency . See patent applications US20170281934A1 and US20140330268A1

https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20170281934.pdf

https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20140330268.pdf


These are mechanisms I read about before anectodely on this form and others but seems to be confirmed in serious research work

I did not see any other company or researcher publish data of repeated studies on electric fields and frequency therapy.

Tony

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Hi!
E. Coli bacteria do not harm us if it is only where it should be, i.e. in the intestines. If the intestinal walls are overrun by fungi or other pathogens that damage the intestinal walls, then this bacteria and other bacteria can enter the bloodstream and then harm us. Sitting in the intestines, they do a beneficial job for our body, and they are said to also produce H2O2, which is ammunition for white blood cells.

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That's right.
60-70% with the urogenital system is caused by E. coli.
It is very pathogenic.

Tony,

In the patent, named "Inhibiting Viral Infection"

https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20200016399.pdf

It says, "the alternating electric field inhibits infection of the cells in the target region by the virus"

However no mechanism is given.

What are the investigators missing ?

Dan

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Originally Posted by Dan Jenson

Tony,

In the patent, named "Inhibiting Viral Infection"

https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20200016399.pdf

It says, "the alternating electric field inhibits infection of the cells in the target region by the virus"

However no mechanism is given.

What are the investigators missing ?

Dan

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I only mentioned a couple of links as example, find much more at their website and in publications

Tony

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Originally Posted by Yuriy Vladimirovich

That's right.
60-70% with the urogenital system is caused by E. coli.
It is very pathogenic.

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Hi Yuriy, Peace be upon You and Yours All.
That is a hygiene issue. Mostly because in the western countrys, People use toiletpaper and don´t clean with water straight way. In western toilets is no bidet, only for the rich.
Especialy for woman a issue, because there is not much distance between anus and vulva.
The problem is the behavior of host not the bacteria.

Sincerely
** Ali **

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Hi Yuriy, Peace be upon You and Yours All.
That is a hygiene issue. Mostly because in the western countrys, People use toiletpaper and don´t clean with water straight way. In western toilets is no bidet, only for the rich.
Especialy for woman a issue, because there is not much distance between anus and vulva.
The problem is the behavior of host not the bacteria.

Sincerely
** Ali **

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Not always. Autoimmune responses get older people with "whatever phenomenon they are calling leaky gut" and it is why rheumatism people want to take loads of vitamin c but can't or it can dramatically exacerbate the condition

Hello,
What website? I don't see anyone here mentioning a site.

At first see:
https://www.cancertutor.com

Hi found these recent articles:

Non-thermal membrane effects of electromagnetic fields and therapeutic applications in oncology

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02656736.2021.1914354

Immune Regulation Under Magnetic Fields

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2020.582772/full


Tony

Hello,
Have read the site, interesting but a major error. Cancer has been shown recently to be a DNA illness. Sequencing of tumors cell by cell gives horrible results: the quantity of errors grows during the growth of the tumors to incredible results, up to millions of errors for a cell. Taking account the natural selection, the tumor will escape every treatment, and especially immunologic ones. In my family no one passed the 5 years. It is fun not to give healing results, as the conventional medicine does not outperform in the field! And has progressed very slowly in the last century.
Best regards

They can sure help some with supplemental, non toxic, remedials for both the cancer and the rifing.

I could not say about rife itself? Never used it alone on cancer or many things? Always part of a treatment strategy and a right fine performing one if you are only asking for what it can do and not expecting an "every time" miracle.

Some dam miraculous things happen with them sometimes too? It depends on the cancer and the practitioner. One of my all time favorite stories is the fellow who said "My wife had cancer. I took her to a man's house. When she came out, she did not have cancer." It happens. Just at my clinic, we are never totally sure what part of the whole treatment did it and do not make knowing that a priority.

Guys,

We already have all of the chemo and radiation and surgery available to terrorize cells. This would be oncologic cells as well as healthy cells. I do not wish to add anything to this horror. It is an expensive failure.

I would also say that non-thermal rife effects to cells are subtle phenomenon's anyway, and not worth the trouble.

What attracted me to Rife Technology is that Royal Rife targeted the causes of proliferating cells, and NOT live cells.

All of the trouble comes in when we target living cells while the causes of the cells remain. If we target the cells then we are no better than the chemo pushers. When you target the cells then cancer becomes a rich industry and treatment is terrorism.

This my my two cents for your consideration.

Hope it helps,

love Dan

Further comment 'edit' I just realized that there is listed 625,536 views on this string, and it is 15 pages long. Wow, congratulations Peter. How many people are going to see my rant ? I think we should defund cancer treatment and research !

Hi!
Of the cases of cancer I know, surgical removal of the tumor is sometimes indicated due to:
- its volume
- no metastases
Unfortunately, this does not remove the causes of cancerous changes in the patient's body and if the dietary recommendations and life behaviors are not followed, the cancer returns even after 6 years.

Hello,
Cancer is formed each day, due to many causes, the self irradiation by 14carbon and 40potassium (not strong but complicated) is not the least. The problem is the inability of immune system to remove them ALL. It is simple at this stage. When the cells develop and clusterize it is more and more difficult.
Best regards

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Originally Posted by Stanislaw Chmielarz

Hi!
Of the cases of cancer I know, surgical removal of the tumor is sometimes indicated due to:
- its volume
- no metastases
Unfortunately, this does not remove the causes of cancerous changes in the patient's body and if the dietary recommendations and life behaviors are not followed, the cancer returns even after 6 years.

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A cell goes through several steps to become a cancer cell. Each step can be caused by a different factor. However, there is one step that is universal to all cancer cells. The cell must flip to anerobic energy production. This is caused by infection of the mitocondria of the cell by the Rife BX BY organism which has been DNA sequenced and is a common organism, bacillus licheniformis. This must be removed to prevent cancer or recurrence of cancer. It is in the food chain. It is even in some probiotic supplements. So we are constantly getting reinfected with this organism. This is why Rife cured many cancers but most had metastatic cancer later. It is also why everyone will get cancer if they live long enough. The book, Tripping Over the Truth, does a good job explaining Nobel Laureate Warburg's analysis of this problem.

The Canadian Indians taught sailors how to cure scurvy with tea that had Vitamin C. It took 200 years before the head surgeon of the Royal Navy mandated limes be put on all ships. From that point forward the Limey's ruled the waves. It has been almost 100 years since Warburg figured out the root cause of cancer and it will take another 100 years before the right person wakes up.

Last night I was watching the TV series "Downton Abbey" and the lord of the manor jumped up and vomited blood all over the table during a formal dinner. It was diagnosed as an ulcer brought on by stress. 100 years later we were still saying ulcers were an emotional problem until an Australian physician drank a beaker of H. Pylori and then biopsied his stomach showing ulcer formation. He published and eventually got a Nobel prize for this. H. Pylori is a bad bug but scanners detect it easily today and frequencies make short work of it. Maybe some cancer physician needs to drink a beaker of bacillus licheniformis. Unfortunately it is much slower acting than H. Pylori.

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Hi found these recent articles:

Non-thermal membrane effects of electromagnetic fields and therapeutic applications in oncology

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02656736.2021.1914354

Immune Regulation Under Magnetic Fields

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2020.582772/full


Tony

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I found the oncotherm patent of Szasz at https://patents.google.com/patent/US9320911/en . They discuss a complex modulation involving some positive feedback from a sensor. I dont understand it all, but you could read it with the clue that the sensor unit is an SWR sensor. They mention 1/f pink noise. I am thinking the initial signal might be either clean sine or clean rectified sine ... and the shape of the mod signal is then further distorted or refined as a fourier sum (with some reference to the SWR feedback sensor input). It may be that the patent text does not clearly spell out the intention of the signal modification .... but it might be as simple as adding just enough odd harmonics (or pink number harmonics, whatever) to get optimal SWR, and it stops adding extra harmonics once this extra action makes SWR worse. If my guess is correct, there is no special clinical or physiological aspect to this signal shaping, but minimising carrier reflection might be clinically optimal anyway (or not). If the mod shape can impact on target impedance, then maybe that is like an electrical engineer's ecstatic experience of sacred

Why would Szasz play with modulation in the first place ? Maybe because it allows higher peak RF power while limiting heating (related to average power). In older texts he used the term fractal modulation, which I beleive means like flower petals, but it may have some more obscure mathematical meaning.

So the second generation oncotherm uses e-fields in order to generate microcurrents that do the job in a background of targeted hyperthermia for the purpose of tissue temperature stabilization for treatment standardization.

I'm just trying to sort this out, if I am getting it correctly. Seems the Anthony Holland lab method with added tissue temperature heating for better effect. ( Someone previously suggested that Anthony H. needs be add some temp. stabilization to his process anyway)

Still, my contention continues that these processes are targeting cells with limited success, (20%) while, historically Royal Rife targeted micro-organisms. (method 1.)

However, seen side effects of the historical Rife therapy (that aimed to destroy micro-organisms) did destroy cancer cells. We have seen that pulsed energies electrocute the coherence of cell division thus limiting tumor growth at the moment of application. (method 2.)Then afterwards the randomness of proliferating cell division resumes.

Now with oncotherm we get a 3rd method of action, namely bringing the tissue temperature up to some standard and then applying pulsed micro-currents for the purpose of creating apoptosis in the cancer cells.

dj

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Yes and the patent mentions,

"In the present invention the feed-back is the forwarded energy, and a capacitive coupling is applied."


Is this another way of identifying a resonant coupling of energy ? In the Rife way the plasma pings pulse harmonics (of the resonant fundamental) all the way up through 1 gigahertz.

This is the magic of ringing the bell ! This is how resonant coupling works.

Now we witness oncotherm is not void of a similar magic. Pink noise !

Seem's oncothgerm getrs it.

Alan, you even call this "pink number harmonics".

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Pink noise spectrum. Power density falls off at 10 dB/decade (−3 dB/octave).

The frequency spectrum of pink noise is linear in logarithmic space; it has equal power in bands that are proportionally wide. This means that pink noise would have equal power in the frequency range from 40 to 60 Hz as in the band from 4000 to 6000 Hz. Since humans hear in such a proportional space, where a doubling of frequency (an octave) is perceived the same regardless of actual frequency (40–60 Hz is heard as the same interval and distance as 4000–6000 Hz), every octave contains the same amount of energy and thus pink noise is often used as a reference signal in audio engineering.

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see: https://sites.google.com/site/digisy...ise-generators

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So the second generation oncotherm uses e-fields in order to generate microcurrents that do the job in a background of targeted hyperthermia for the purpose of tissue temperature stabilization for treatment standardization.

I'm just trying to sort this out, if I am getting it correctly. Seems the Anthony Holland lab method with added tissue temperature heating for better effect. ( Someone previously suggested that Anthony H. needs be add some temp. stabilization to his process anyway)

Still, my contention continues that these processes are targeting cells with limited success, (20%) while, historically Royal Rife targeted micro-organisms. (method 1.)

However, seen side effects of the historical Rife therapy (that aimed to destroy micro-organisms) did destroy cancer cells. We have seen that pulsed energies electrocute the coherence of cell division thus limiting tumor growth at the moment of application. (method 2.)Then afterwards the randomness of proliferating cell division resumes.

Now with oncotherm we get a 3rd method of action, namely bringing the tissue temperature up to some standard and then applying pulsed micro-currents for the purpose of creating apoptosis in the cancer cells.

dj

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I am going to be cynical and say that first inventors build the circuit of their dreams. And afterwards they make up waffle about how they guess it might have bioeffects.... Some historical background is the old theory that if you exceed 43 C you can kill cancer cells and unfortunately if you hit 45 C you start killing normal cells. This was difficult to safely acheive and the most recent hyperthermia therapies tend to aim lower than 42 C.

The oncortherm uses an upper cone applicator of limited size and a lower waterbed functioning as a virtual second electrode. The RF irradiated area is thus limited to a defocused shape under the applicator.

There are other ways to acheive capacitive coupling e.g. using two plate electrodes.

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I am going to be cynical and say that first inventors build the circuit of their dreams. And afterwards they make up waffle about how they guess it might have bioeffects.... Some historical background is the old theory that if you exceed 43 C you can kill cancer cells and unfortunately if you hit 45 C you start killing normal cells. This was difficult to safely acheive and the most recent hyperthermia therapies tend to aim lower than 42 C.

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Oncortherm aside, there are patents that address just that. The thing is to give direction to the RF emission through proper antennas. Gorgun developed a software just to calculate where to focus the RF energy, taking into account skin depth, far mass, skin color, and other factors that influence the delivery.
Rife was using a diathermy machine coupled with a frequency generator. So, it was working on the heating principle, indeed. We know that salt added to water increases its boiling point. So, we could imagine that a frequency may alter the behavior of the diathermy machine and favor an effect before a critical temperature is reached. The Rife effect was always multi-faced, not a single one.

Noise just adds power density. It adds difficult to measure and replicate results. It's better to work with a square wave and duty cycle. And smaller plasma tubes!

Just as curiosity, I attach a couple of diagrams from a femto-second mode locking argon laser by amplitude modulation. This might really be a modern Rife apparatus. It puts together the optics (see the diffraction obtained in the diagram), and the driving of the laser via an acoustic frequency (MOR).

Can this scheme possibly go more Rifian with a harmonic mode locking scheme ?

Just a suggestion.

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Peace be upon Yours All.
I think You all or the most of You have heard about this company and there System.
This is more the way of Rife.
Allways have in mind, it is important to change the environment, to dry out the cause of sickness.
When i have moose in my english grass, then i have to change the environment, poison will not do it on the long term, it would be only symptomatic.
Radio Waves can help, when we use them on the right way.

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Radio-wave Therapy Proves Effective Against Liver Cancer Cells

May 31, 2019


A new targeted therapy using non-thermal radio waves has been shown to block the growth of liver cancer cells anywhere in the body without damaging healthy cells, according to a study conducted by scientists at Wake Forest School of Medicine, part of Wake Forest Baptist Health.


The study findings are published in the May 31 online edition of the journal EBioMedicine, a Lancet publication.

(Left hand image) Patient with metastatic cancer affecting various organs receiving first AM RF EMF systemic targeted treatment. Blue arrows indicate site of tumor with red lesions.
(Right hand image) Patient with complete and partial responses following months of AM RF EMF systemic targeted treatment. Light brown lesions indicate residual tumor following treatment with AM RF EMF.

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https://newsroom.wakehealth.edu/News...r-Cancer-Cells


https://www.therabionic.com/therapy-...emedicaldevice
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Sincerely
** Ali **

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I found the oncotherm patent of Szasz at https://patents.google.com/patent/US9320911/en . They discuss a complex modulation involving some positive feedback from a sensor. I dont understand it all, but you could read it with the clue that the sensor unit is an SWR sensor. They mention 1/f pink noise. I am thinking the initial signal might be either clean sine or clean rectified sine ... and the shape of the mod signal is then further distorted or refined as a fourier sum (with some reference to the SWR feedback sensor input). It may be that the patent text does not clearly spell out the intention of the signal modification .... but it might be as simple as adding just enough odd harmonics (or pink number harmonics, whatever) to get optimal SWR, and it stops adding extra harmonics once this extra action makes SWR worse. If my guess is correct, there is no special clinical or physiological aspect to this signal shaping, but minimising carrier reflection might be clinically optimal anyway (or not). If the mod shape can impact on target impedance, then maybe that is like an electrical engineer's ecstatic experience of sacred geometry.

According to https://www.rife.de/oncotherm---rife...erthermia.html they changed the faceplate label from MOD to RIFE, perhaps because the Rife story is so popular.... but probably the invention is originally unrelated to Rife. There is a typo in the rife.de text. 1/3 should read 1/f.

Why would Szasz play with modulation in the first place ? Maybe because it allows higher peak RF power while limiting heating (related to average power). In older texts he used the term fractal modulation, which I beleive means like flower petals, but it may have some more obscure mathematical meaning.

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Hi Alan,
as I know Prof. Szasz personally and spent hours talking to him over the years, let me correct a few things you said:

Prof. Szasz designed his Oncotherm units based on Rife research that he then further developed in a Hungarian university. He describes his methods as based on Rife, but a further development of it. RIFE was originally written on his units and that is what made me aware of them, when I saw them at the Medica trade fair in Germany. The term "Rife" was changed to "Modulation" due to negative comments from others that were made. The technology is the same, they just changed the word. They have done a number of clinical studies with their Oncothermia, which combines hyperthermia with Rife modulation and they have had proven results in the treatment of cancer. If you are looking for a company that has been involved in clinical studies, this is the one.
Szasz has told me many times that he learned a lot about Rife and that was the basis of his research that led to Oncotherm.

Hi Peter. My apologies for misquoting rife.de on the faceplate label of Oncotherm. I deleted that paragraph.

If as you say Szasz feels the Oncotherm is based on Rife then I can accept that. .. It remains possible that his first modulated prototypes were developed in the years before Rife was popularized in 1988 as novel innovations. So we could agree to differ.

I met Szasz in 1994 at a Sydney conference.

There are plenty of similarities to modern Rife devices anyway especially where a phanotron tube is placed near the torso. However there is is probably no cracking spike in this non plasma applicator.

I notice the photo at rife.de has a large square top plate. Some previous models were described as having a cooled cone applicator.

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Oncortherm aside, there are patents that address just that. The thing is to give direction to the RF emission through proper antennas. Gorgun developed a software just to calculate where to focus the RF energy, taking into account skin depth, far mass, skin color, and other factors that influence the delivery.
Rife was using a diathermy machine coupled with a frequency generator. So, it was working on the heating principle, indeed. We know that salt added to water increases its boiling point. So, we could imagine that a frequency may alter the behavior of the diathermy machine and favor an effect before a critical temperature is reached. The Rife effect was always multi-faced, not a single one.

Noise just adds power density. It adds difficult to measure and replicate results. It's better to work with a square wave and duty cycle. And smaller plasma tubes!

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Hi Fab. What is the placement of patient with respect to the old diathermy output. Is the output those two angled antenna arms or is that for climbing sparks. And what about for in vitro vials.

I have some confusion because an alternative concept
Could have a spark device discharging into a gas tube as a terminal load . Didnt rife always use plasma tubes ??? Any thoughts? ??

Old diathermy is similar to Violet Ray. You also have similar electrodes. You can use effluvia on a short distance and even contact plates.

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Old diathermy is similar to Violet Ray. You also have similar electrodes. You can use effluvia on a short distance and even contact plates.

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Violet Ray has one electrode in plasma and the charge must find earth. But all rifes tubes in old photos were not single tube . Maybe they never showed photos of the earlier apparatus. What do you think ?

Hello
The charge finds earth by ionizing air, creating ozone and nitrogen oxides (smells). Tesla coil, output voltage around 20,000 volts. Wave form very similar to the first Rife apparatuses. Damped oscillations.
Best regards

Diathermy machines have 2 poles, and they usually use a pancake coil for output at 150,000 V. But they also come with intermediate settings to have D'Oudin voltage and a lower voltage too, but at high current. You easily cook meat with the low voltage terminals.

Rife simply used the first transformer only of the 3. He custom wound it in order to have an output of 5,000 V.
That is just a little above the requirement to get helium full spectrum down to soft x-rays.
If you were to use argon, you need a much higher voltage (15,000 V should suffice).

The good advantage in using air, such as in violet wands, is that you can have a very broad spectrum. CO2 naturally has a broadband spectrum that resonates with microorganisms.

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Hello
The charge finds earth by ionizing air, creating ozone and nitrogen oxides (smells). Tesla coil, output voltage around 20,000 volts. Wave form very similar to the first Rife apparatuses. Damped oscillations.
Best regards

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If you just use nitrogen oxide you obtain what Rife describes, matching treatment time and any other parameter. It can travel the flesh at depth at a magnitude smaller than radio wave speed.

Hello,
I know these devices very well, having used them for decades for leak testing in glassware under vacuum (Holo electron devices) A potentiometer could be used to vary the output.
Best regards

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Originally Posted by Jeff Sutherland

A cell goes through several steps to become a cancer cell. Each step can be caused by a different factor. However, there is one step that is universal to all cancer cells. The cell must flip to anerobic energy production. This is caused by infection of the mitocondria of the cell by the Rife BX BY organism which has been DNA sequenced and is a common organism, bacillus licheniformis.
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Hi!
This is only partially correct information. A cell can change its metabolism for other reasons as well:
- low osmotic potential of the cell membrane resulting, for example, from the wrong composition of lipids that make up the membrane
- for a small supply of oxygen to the cell fluids and inside the cell
- acidification of body fluids
This change in metabolism is built into the cell's defense mechanisms, which in this way begins to ferment glucose in the absence of oxygen, instead of burning it in oxygen. In this way, by consuming about 15 times more glucose, it manages to keep it alive.
Scientists have so far been concerned about the mechanism of cancer transmission to other organs, and this is where the BL theory works.
The immune system, which should eliminate such cells in the embryo, has an almost impact on the development of cancer, but sometimes it is so busy that it is impossible to locate and process all the signals.

What is the conclusion?
What is the consensus of specialists about the devices that can eliminate cancer? breast and bone?

From my experience Rife is not better than others in terms of success, but is better in terms of worsening things, Chemicals and radiations can produce cancer in a healthy individual, curing cancer with that is a bad approach.
All cases that i known treated in this way, have shorter or no longer life after diagnostic than untreated ones.
Cancer is time consuming, a visit a week at a Rife specialist not works, it need every day attention, more times a day, Rife alone do not do much.
All malignant cells have genetic mutations, this is the primary cause of cancer, immune system usually kill them before spreading, immunotherapy proved it`s value, but in most cases is not enough alone, Rife with immunotherapy is almost no experience, i can`t say that works.
Metabolic or hormonal disorders or altered environment can accelerate spreading of malignant cells but is unlikely that produce cancer by themselves, mutagens (chemicals and radiations) are proved to produce cancer, perhaps in early obscure stages of developing of a cancer altered environment may help malignant cells to survive and spread, by giving them a metabolic advantage and altering immune system`s effectiveness.

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Hi!
This is only partially correct information. A cell can change its metabolism for other reasons as well:
- low osmotic potential of the cell membrane resulting, for example, from the wrong composition of lipids that make up the membrane
- for a small supply of oxygen to the cell fluids and inside the cell
- acidification of body fluids
This change in metabolism is built into the cell's defense mechanisms, which in this way begins to ferment glucose in the absence of oxygen, instead of burning it in oxygen. In this way, by consuming about 15 times more glucose, it manages to keep it alive.
Scientists have so far been concerned about the mechanism of cancer transmission to other organs, and this is where the BL theory works.
The immune system, which should eliminate such cells in the embryo, has an almost impact on the development of cancer, but sometimes it is so busy that it is impossible to locate and process all the signals.

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Agreed that there are other mechanisms that precipitate a cell into an anerobic state. I submit the only one that really matters in the case of cancer is the Rife BX BY organism infecting mitochondria and flipping the cell into an anerobic state. This sets up the cells for a carcinogen to start the random DNA mutations seen in cancer and the promoting agents to increase the rate of uncontrolled proliferation.

Mitochondria is a symbiotic organism has own DNA, relation with cancer is complex and almost unknown.

some studies:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4779192/

One thing emerge from this document, malignant cell must have required energy to proliferate, in almost tumors mitochondrial regulation and function are preserved, nuclear genome mitochondrial control is preserved and cell eliminate mutant defective mitochondria.Some tumors are related with mutant defective mitochondria, but those cells simply have not enough energy to be so aggressive.
Signaling between mitochondria and host cell is complex.

Jeff,

The process that you describe makes cancer an intelligent process, an intelligent being so-to-speak, and not just some genetic defect that causes cells to proliferate. So, cancer becomes a complexity with its own instinct for survival and living process. Its own DNA.

Your described "flipping the cell into an anerobic state" would be the result of a DNA hybridization which would result in a new being. A parasite.

Industrial fermenting processes utilize the bacillus litcheniformis microbe in order to "flip the cell into an anerobic state" if I am stating this correctly.

I was just thinking that it would be a simple enough process to place some bacillus L. onto a microscope slide and expose it to frequencies ?

dj

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Jeff,

The process that you describe makes cancer an intelligent process, an intelligent being so-to-speak, and not just some genetic defect that causes cells to proliferate. So, cancer becomes a complexity with its own instinct for survival and living process. Its own DNA.

Your described "flipping the cell into an anerobic state" would be the result of a DNA hybridization which would result in a new being. A parasite.

Industrial fermenting processes utilize the bacillus litcheniformis microbe in order to "flip the cell into an anerobic state" if I am stating this correctly.

I was just thinking that it would be a simple enough process to place some bacillus L. onto a microscope slide and expose it to frequencies ?

dj

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The consensus among the leading scientists when I was getting my Ph.D. in Carcinogenesis was that cancer was an evolutionary innovation that enabled the animal to stay alive long enough to reproduce in a toxic environment. So in that sense it is an intelligent process.

Hi all:
The response to the question is YES but!!.
To achieve the best results the set up is of primary importance.
I learned it in the daily doing.
You have to have the following:
1- Body temperature measurement and recording, hardware and software from PicoTech.com.
You need this device to SEE what is taking place in the Clients body while you apply Rife frequencies.
It will take you some 5-6 sessions before you can handle the temperature levels with confidence.
You have to measure body temperature with a resolution of 0.01C, customize Pico Log to this level.
What you measure is RATE of change. You can NOT compare true temperature between different people.
Temp. will raise after killing the bacteria from .02 to .15C or more, with a Std time of 2min 15 second. This is an average don't take it as the rule, some bacteria's brake at 4 min!!!
Keep notes of freq. and temp., for comparison between sessions, very important.
Watch for common frequency like the 880.
No Bacteria present NO temp goes up for that frequency.
The ideal outcome is: you pass all the freq. and temp increment is zero. that is the end of treatment!!

2- I use a 27Mhz system with linear lamp of 52 cm, I made several lamp in Neon shop until I got the right gas pressure.

The Rife treatment is not the only thing you have to take in account.
I started with cats and dogs to see if it worked, and all OK, and I follow with humans.

Treatment: Almost 2hr Lamp session, 3 times a week, for three weeks.
Sugar is forbidden, same for Carbohydrates (no visits to the bakery) and Alcohol. Eat Alkaline food.

The surprise: Some People came back from his Doc routine control after 3 month!! How is this possible???

After a week revising all the details I got the idea about the Bacteria eggs like Rife had, of how it reproduced, I looked at the reproduction time and found the answer. The reproduction time is 28 days!!!
After finishing the treatment next day bacteria eggs opens and lay new eggs "Goodby Lamp Work".

To solve this problem I used the Bob Beck Zapper, the Client should buy a Zapper and used it at home "every day" for 30 days to kill the new born Bacteria. If one day is skipped he should start all over again. For safety reasons he should use the zapper for two month.

Control: The client should come in for temperature control during week 3 of Zapper application. Zapper can fall and brake and not work. I control the zapper with an Oscilloscope.

I hope this comments can to increase Rife Technology to a higher degree of confidence.

HL

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Originally Posted by Ionut Nebel

From my experience Rife is not better than others in terms of success, but is better in terms of worsening things, Chemicals and radiations can produce cancer in a healthy individual, curing cancer with that is a bad approach.
All cases that i known treated in this way, have shorter or no longer life after diagnostic than untreated ones.
Cancer is time consuming, a visit a week at a Rife specialist not works, it need every day attention, more times a day, Rife alone do not do much.
All malignant cells have genetic mutations, this is the primary cause of cancer, immune system usually kill them before spreading, immunotherapy proved it`s value, but in most cases is not enough alone, Rife with immunotherapy is almost no experience, i can`t say that works.
Metabolic or hormonal disorders or altered environment can accelerate spreading of malignant cells but is unlikely that produce cancer by themselves, mutagens (chemicals and radiations) are proved to produce cancer, perhaps in early obscure stages of developing of a cancer altered environment may help malignant cells to survive and spread, by giving them a metabolic advantage and altering immune system`s effectiveness.

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Hi Ionut,
During my reading of many researches and studies (I am not a specialist)
The human body is competent and able to heal itself without interference.
But the toxins (which you mentioned) surrounding us from every side impede the functioning of the body.
When cancer arises, yes, the immune system is the most important wall, and this wall cannot be destroyed by chemotherapy and radiotherapy.
But at the same time, a direct hit must be made to the place of the tumor, as (Royal Rife and other scientists) did.
Direct strikes to the tumor do not conflict with strengthening the immune system and cleaning the body with multiple programs that have proven to be effective.
I am completely convinced that the mechanism that Rife worked on .. targets the tumor directly (this is my hunch and not a scientific view frankly)

Hi Muath!
If You want to hit the tumor directly use 465MHz frequency but, a safe power is not known at this time(!).

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Hi all:
The response to the question is YES but!!.
To achieve the best results the set up is of primary importance.
I learned it in the daily doing.
You have to have the following:
1- Body temperature measurement and recording, hardware and software from PicoTech.com.
You need this device to SEE what is taking place in the Clients body while you apply Rife frequencies.
It will take you some 5-6 sessions before you can handle the temperature levels with confidence.
You have to measure body temperature with a resolution of 0.01C, customize Pico Log to this level.
What you measure is RATE of change. You can NOT compare true temperature between different people.
Temp. will raise after killing the bacteria from .02 to .15C or more, with a Std time of 2min 15 second. This is an average don't take it as the rule, some bacteria's brake at 4 min!!!
Keep notes of freq. and temp., for comparison between sessions, very important.
Watch for common frequency like the 880.
No Bacteria present NO temp goes up for that frequency.
The ideal outcome is: you pass all the freq. and temp increment is zero. that is the end of treatment!!

2- I use a 27Mhz system with linear lamp of 52 cm, I made several lamp in Neon shop until I got the right gas pressure.

The Rife treatment is not the only thing you have to take in account.
I started with cats and dogs to see if it worked, and all OK, and I follow with humans.

Treatment: Almost 2hr Lamp session, 3 times a week, for three weeks.
Sugar is forbidden, same for Carbohydrates (no visits to the bakery) and Alcohol. Eat Alkaline food.

The surprise: Some People came back from his Doc routine control after 3 month!! How is this possible???

After a week revising all the details I got the idea about the Bacteria eggs like Rife had, of how it reproduced, I looked at the reproduction time and found the answer. The reproduction time is 28 days!!!
After finishing the treatment next day bacteria eggs opens and lay new eggs "Goodby Lamp Work".

To solve this problem I used the Bob Beck Zapper, the Client should buy a Zapper and used it at home "every day" for 30 days to kill the new born Bacteria. If one day is skipped he should start all over again. For safety reasons he should use the zapper for two month.

Control: The client should come in for temperature control during week 3 of Zapper application. Zapper can fall and brake and not work. I control the zapper with an Oscilloscope.

I hope this comments can to increase Rife Technology to a higher degree of confidence.

HL

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very nice Horacio,
I tried to translate your words accurately in order to fully understand everything you said.
What you have mentioned is very useful information.
The problem I have is that I did not get any device yet.
I am lost between the types and the high prices.
I am lost because I am (Arabic) and do not understand the accurate information because of Google Translate and because I am not specialized in these matters.
I am now linking information from here and there.
And I hope to get to something good

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Originally Posted by Stanislaw Chmielarz

Hi Muath!
If You want to hit the tumor directly use 465MHz frequency but, a safe power is not known at this time(!).

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Hi Stanislaw,
sorry I embarrass myself because of my many (dumb) questions.
but this frequency (465MHz)!! How can I get it?
From what device?
and what do you mean (safe power is not known at this time(!).)?

Hi!
This frequency and its harmonics are used to detect cancerous tumors due to the increased absorption of this frequency by the cancer cells.
It can be used to overheat these cells and cause them to die.
Therefore, the necessary power is not known yet because it depends on many factors.
Diet plus iodine is safer, but the therapy must last for about 3 months.
I am at the stage of agreeing the test conditions and I have already built some devices.

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Originally Posted by Stanislaw Chmielarz

Hi!
This frequency and its harmonics are used to detect cancerous tumors due to the increased absorption of this frequency by the cancer cells.
It can be used to overheat these cells and cause them to die.
Therefore, the necessary power is not known yet because it depends on many factors.
Diet plus iodine is safer, but the therapy must last for about 3 months.
I am at the stage of agreeing the test conditions and I have already built some devices.

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Do I understand from your words that this frequency cannot be reached until this moment?
Can I get one of my friends who speak English and understand electricity to communicate with you? I desperately need a frequency to be effective in bone cancer

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Do I understand from your words that this frequency cannot be reached until this moment?

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This must be a special device which can generate such a high frequency. Ordinary "Rife" devices, I know, cannot go as high.

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Originally Posted by Stanislaw Chmielarz

This must be a special device which can generate such a high frequency. Ordinary "Rife" devices, I know, cannot go as high.

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So these devices are not capable?
like: john bedini (RPX) or Lakhovsky Multiple Wave?
So what is the solution?

INDIBA invests a lot of resources in researching its technology to ensure the best results. During this research, a team from the highly regarded Spanish University Hospital Ramón y Cajal in Madrid (Dr. Ubeda and his team) have been investigating what happens to the body's cells when INDIBA is applied. They have found that INDIBA's 448 kHz frequency is effective in stimulating stem cell proliferation and differentiation, and that normal healthy cells are not damaged in the process. Tests were also carried out on certain types of cancer cells in vitro, where it was found that the number of these cells decreased, but not the number of normal cells, making it a safe process to use on humans and therefore also on animals.


Muath, the closest we have to a true Rife is to use a plasma system of at least 60 watts, with transport or direct frequencies above 3.0 Mhz.


john bedini (RPX) is just a signal mixer, not a Rife.
Lakhovsky Multiple Wave is another technology, in general it helps the electrical repolarisation of the cells, but does not cure anything specifically.


a good device is expensive... for many technical reasons that require it, not the whim of the manufacturer...

unfortunately I haven't treated anyone for bone cancer, I don't know what can help.

to better understand what a Rife system is, here is the breakdown.
https://www.rifevideos.com/the_rife_machine_report.html


maybe the better machine for cancer is this: https://www.resonantlight.com/

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Originally Posted by Carlos Palau

INDIBA invests a lot of resources in researching its technology to ensure the best results. During this research, a team from the highly regarded Spanish University Hospital Ramón y Cajal in Madrid (Dr. Ubeda and his team) have been investigating what happens to the body's cells when INDIBA is applied. They have found that INDIBA's 448 kHz frequency is effective in stimulating stem cell proliferation and differentiation, and that normal healthy cells are not damaged in the process. Tests were also carried out on certain types of cancer cells in vitro, where it was found that the number of these cells decreased, but not the number of normal cells, making it a safe process to use on humans and therefore also on animals.

I checked their site earlier but as I told you due to my lack of expertise and experience, I couldn't choose between the devices.
But now, because of your wonderful advice, I sent them an explanation of the situation and I am now waiting for a response.


Muath, the closest we have to a true Rife is to use a plasma system of at least 60 watts, with transport or direct fre
quencies above 3.0 Mhz.

And The closest to these frequencies is the device available at INDIBA ?

john bedini (RPX) is just a signal mixer, not a Rife.
Lakhovsky Multiple Wave is another technology, in general it helps the electrical repolarisation of the cells, but does not cure anything specifically.


really!!
I thought Bedini's techniques were the closest (based on my non-specialist, non-scientific research) and based on communication with one of the partners in this company.


a good device is expensive... for many technical reasons that require it, not the whim of the manufacturer...
you know? I was and am still willing to sell the rest of what I had (my car)money is very important
But what really matters is, where do I spend it because I am lost between information and devices

unfortunately I haven't treated anyone for bone cancer, I don't know what can help.
I wish you great success, and I wish every specialist and creator to get rid of obstacles and save as many people as he can.
Do you use many devices?

to better understand what a Rife system is, here is the breakdown.
https://www.rifevideos.com/the_rife_machine_report.html

I read and translated a lot of this site from English to Arabic.
Understood the outlines
I did not find a clear solution
But with every reading, I am completely convinced that there is a device capable of treating people from these diseases
It's real, not just a fairy tale

maybe the better machine for cancer is this: https://www.resonantlight.com/

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I also visited this site before
But what was missing from me
..is the advice of professionals like you.
Now I will strive to find the best solution
I thank you very much
I don't want to bother you any more, I don't want to bother you any more, but let me ask you, as I asked others:
About the possibility of contacting you with a friend who speaks English and has experience in this field to get accurate and truthful information?

I don't think there is a clear solution for this "cancer", it is more complicated than just having helicobacter .... I would try doctors who also use phytotherapy which is very powerful and beneficial.

Indiba is not Rife, but it is a very good piece of equipment that maybe someone has out there.


I don't do therapy, I only manufacture the equipment... and I'm sorry but I don't speak English.


I think all the summary knowledge about Rife is in Nenah Silver's book.
http://www.rifehandbook.com/

frequencies most commonly used in bone cancer

10025, 10026, 10027, 12000, 13280, 20080, 21275, 34000, 34048, 34096, 34240, 34320, 45872, 49040, 52808, 53376, 56384, 58752, 59408

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Originally Posted by Carlos Palau

I don't think there is a clear solution for this "cancer", it is more complicated than just having helicobacter .... I would try doctors who also use phytotherapy which is very powerful and beneficial.
sure ofcourse
We take many effective herbs and natural substances.
But the presence of a device that affects the disease directly reduces the burden on the body
Indiba is not Rife, but it is a very good piece of equipment that maybe someone has out there.


I don't do therapy, I only manufacture the equipment... and I'm sorry but I don't speak English.
I meant to communicate in to manufacture a device

I think all the summary knowledge about Rife is in Nenah Silver's book.
http://www.rifehandbook.com/

frequencies most commonly used in bone cancer

10025, 10026, 10027, 12000, 13280, 20080, 21275, 34000, 34048, 34096, 34240, 34320, 45872, 49040, 52808, 53376, 56384, 58752, 59408
These frequencies are important
Regardless of which device it comes from?
Is my understanding correct?

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really thank you Carlos

These are general frequencies found on all machines on the market and the only known frequencies for bone cancer, as I said, unfortunately, there is very little research on frequencies for this particular cancer.

you can build your machine with components already tested by other users.


the spooky generator has a very comprehensive software and allows you to program your stuff and have it stored there without depending on the computer.
https://www.spooky2-mall.com/product...y2-generatorx/

control board and plasma tube coupling coil can be purchased assembled.
https://spectrotek.com/pa3.htm

https://spectrotek.com/lc31.htm

the plasma tube can be ordered from Canada, the best manufacturer on the market without a doubt.
8 inch Phanotron tube
http://billsplasmatubes.com/

any of us can give you some advice on frequencies, if you need to buy for the treatment you can order them from us:
https://www.dnafrequencies.com/human-diseases

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Originally Posted by Carlos Palau

you can build your machine with components already tested by other users.


the spooky generator has a very comprehensive software and allows you to program your stuff and have it stored there without depending on the computer.
https://www.spooky2-mall.com/product...y2-generatorx/

control board and plasma tube coupling coil can be purchased assembled.
https://spectrotek.com/pa3.htm

https://spectrotek.com/lc31.htm

the plasma tube can be ordered from Canada, the best manufacturer on the market without a doubt.
8 inch Phanotron tube
http://billsplasmatubes.com/

any of us can give you some advice on frequencies, if you need to buy for the treatment you can order them from us:
https://www.dnafrequencies.com/human-diseases

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hi Carlos
You helped me so much
And I started searching in my country for some specialists
to make the right device.
I have kept all the links you sent me.
I will tell you every progress I can make
You have given me a lot of explanation

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Originally Posted by Carlos Palau

you can build your machine with components already tested by other users.


the spooky generator has a very comprehensive software and allows you to program your stuff and have it stored there without depending on the computer.
https://www.spooky2-mall.com/product...y2-generatorx/

control board and plasma tube coupling coil can be purchased assembled.
https://spectrotek.com/pa3.htm

https://spectrotek.com/lc31.htm

the plasma tube can be ordered from Canada, the best manufacturer on the market without a doubt.
8 inch Phanotron tube
http://billsplasmatubes.com/

any of us can give you some advice on frequencies, if you need to buy for the treatment you can order them from us:
https://www.dnafrequencies.com/human-diseases

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As I told you, I will send this information to the specialist when I find him.
But just to be a little more understandable:
These tools and devices have to be grouped together to reach the greatest possible help and impact?

yes, as listed, you get a 3.1 or 3.3 Mhz Carrier Rife, depending on the order, a complete set.


However, you need a good assembly technician.


if you need help, just ask us.

This is incredible information indeed. I've been trying to figure out myself which route to go and the genX (with the software ) - SPA5 - LC3 - 8 inch Phanotrom tube from Bill seems like a good option. Has anyone ever measured the output of a GenX ? is it consistent - putting out what it's supposed to be? I'm scared it's doing something other than what it says.
Is there any downside from a technical point in using a good sound card + Fredx as the generator instead of the Genx+software? Just curious.

PA3 Rife Plasma Tube Amplifier and LC31 is totally complete for what you need.

The genx is very accurate, and can handle higher frequency ranges, in my experience the 3.3Mhz carrier range is best suited to frequencies from 20000 to 70000 Hz.

If you don't mind relying on the computer you can buy the basic $100 spooky one.

Treating cancer is a time consuming endeavour you can try a frequency/set it may work some time, you need find other and other, i had no success perhaps some ones made it.
When cancer goes clinical time is gone, is already a multitude of clones of malignant cells, early detection is important, I no agree to use chemicals and radiations in any stage of cancer, especially in early cancer,
Very important, patient must stop eat meat, this thing alone can be stop evolution to clinical cancer.
Early detection by frequency was discussed in this forum, now are available PCR test that can detect cancer years before goes clinical.

As we discussed earlier cancer seems to an integrated entity not a collection of mutant cells, cancerous cells preserve most important systems as aerobic respiration, adhesion, signaling. tumor can a parasitic organism.
Another approach in cancer is to limit growth speed in a hard way, by limiting protein and manufacturing capability.

Normal cells do not use that machinery at full speed, but if is slowed down normal cells use it close the new limit, malignant cells lose that advantage, even if run that machinery at full speed (hard way slowed).

A way do to this is to break ribosomal complex by frequency, escaping mutations are unlikely, this is a long term evolution system, it has very few working variants.

If yow if you make immune system to recognize tumor as non self after you slow it down in hard way you may cure cancer.

I will add some important weaknesses of cancer cells:
- the LD50 index is much lower for cancer cells than for healthy cells
- cancer cells stop multiplying in an alkaline environment, various therapies use it (honey-cinnamon, maple syrup - soda)
- cancer cells have lower resistance to high temperature than healthy cells (oncothermia)
- cancer cell complexes absorb 465MHz, so they can be detected and destroyed by overheating
- a method based on a urine test to determine whether the body has a cancerous process developed by a doctor from the Philippines has been known for a long time

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- a method based on a urine test to determine whether the body has a cancerous process developed by a doctor from the Philippines has been known for a long time

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Hi Stanislaw
Does this test have a specific name?
Tried searching for it on google
It seems that it is not available in all places?

I know that some chemicals related with cancer can be detected by trained dogs in urine, sweat, respiration, or simply smelling that person, but PCR proved more sensitive and is routinely available, detection is as least 3 years in advance to go clinical it finds transcripts of genes used by cancerous cells and not used by normal cells.

In cancer management you may consider systems evolution, some parts of genome are highly conserved, same information for more than 1 billion years, revealed by extensive sequencing of DNA of many species.

About 465MHz is easy to generate but i have no experience, i purchased some broad band power d mos fets up to 2 Ghz, 100w, even I was a child 30 years ago I generated some w in that band, now i see is perfectly possible to use a fiber laser as carrier, and target tumors.

That was developed by Manuel D. Navarro, M.D.
It's called HCG Urine Immunoassay.
Check out navarromedicalclinic.com
It is now run by his son, Efren Navarro, M.D.

---Paul Roxas, Philippines

Seems like they are no longer doing HCG testing anymore. Any other folks doing this in the USA?

Do you have any advise on frequency for a GIST tumor. I started at frequency 2008, then advanced to 2128. However, neither frequency has shrunk the tumors. I still believe that the machine works, it's just this cancer is a bit rare so there's no data out there. Thanks for your input.

Hello.
I would start treatment with flukes - intestinal fluke and fluke of the pancreas and liver - min. 30 minutes each, frequencies of Hulda Clark and Ch. Boehm. Then - Trichomonas and Helicobacter Pylori. Also Actinomycosis, Candida, Aspergillus. There can be many reasons - you need to look for the reason. Try R. Rife's original frequencies. What device do you have?
You also need to undergo an antiparasitic course of treatment.

I'm not sure what you mean by "flukes", this type of cancer is a sarcoma not a parasite. I have a coiling machine build by "Doug Coil Machines", it's an amplified frequency generator. I have been tested for H. pylori and it's negative. I have had a ton of genetic testing on my blood and the original specimen removed in 2020 and doctor's are baffeled as to the reason. Thanks for your reply.

Frequency 2008 is a 10-fold reduction in the sideband frequency for sarcoma - 20080, R. Rife and F. Hoyland. It operates only as a sideband with a carrier frequency of 3.3 MHz. But for this you need M.O.P.A. with plasma lamp. Just running the 2008 frequency won't do anything and Doug Coyle can't cure cancer. It's my opinion.

And about the role of parasites in the formation of cancer, read the works of H. Clark.
Cancer is a combination of several types of pathogens - for carcinoma, this is at least 2 pathogens (for example: bacteria + protozoa), and for sarcoma - at least 4 pathogens, so sarcoma is not treated and has never been treated - few people understand the reason for its formation. And since it is very difficult to diagnose pathogens, you need to act by the method of elimination - destroy pathogens sequentially: 1. first - parasites, because they are reservoirs for storing fungi, bacteria and viruses.
2. then - the protozoa.
3. then - fungi.
4. bacteria.
5. viruses.
​Frequencies alone are NOT ENOUGH for sarcoma!
But you can do as you see fit.

Let's look at it from a different angle.
Cancerous cell changes can be detected and removed at an early stage by the immune system, but this immune system must have "free processing capacity" and if it is busy keeping larger numbers of pathogens in check, it simply cannot cope and the pathogens take over. Similarly with cases of activation of pathogenic bacteria during any "viral" infection.

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Frequency 2008 is a 10-fold reduction in the sideband frequency for sarcoma - 20080, R. Rife and F. Hoyland. It operates only as a sideband with a carrier frequency of 3.3 MHz. But for this you need M.O.P.A. with plasma lamp. Just running the 2008 frequency won't do anything and Doug Coyle can't cure cancer. It's my opinion.

And about the role of parasites in the formation of cancer, read the works of H. Clark.
Cancer is a combination of several types of pathogens - for carcinoma, this is at least 2 pathogens (for example: bacteria + protozoa), and for sarcoma - at least 4 pathogens, so sarcoma is not treated and has never been treated - few people understand the reason for its formation. And since it is very difficult to diagnose pathogens, you need to act by the method of elimination - destroy pathogens sequentially: 1. first - parasites, because they are reservoirs for storing fungi, bacteria and viruses.
2. then - the protozoa.
3. then - fungi.
4. bacteria.
5. viruses.
​Frequencies alone are NOT ENOUGH for sarcoma!
But you can do as you see fit.

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Thanks, Yuriy...I had someone else tell me something similar. So I have added Ivermectin, Febendazole (for parasites) and Peach Tree Extract (for molds) along with going back to frequency 2008 but increasing my time on the machine. I appreciate your input! PS: Keeping Ukraine in our prayers!

Thanks for your input Stanislaw. I believe what you are saying. I had been cancer free for almost 4 years, but had several surgeries (unrelated) last year. My hip surgery caused a fat emboli in my lungs, that lead to a heart attack. All is fine now with no heart damage. Then another surgery just a couple months later. I believe this put too much stress on my whole body and it could not fight off the cancer. I have added Ivermectin, Febendazole and Peach Tree Extract (for mold) to my regiment and lastly, I'm going back to coiling at 2008. I am also taking a much harder look at my diet. Even though I've lost weight, I still eat too much sugar! So I'm hoping all of this combined will allow my body to become strong and along with coiling, will be abel to fight this cancer. Thank you again and God Bless!

What is the maximum frequency your device can produce? I believe that the higher the frequency, the better.

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What is the maximum frequency your device can produce? I believe that the higher the frequency, the better.

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Higher frequencies can be better. Higher frequencies can be used on lower frequency machines by calculating and using the lower harmonic frequencies of the higher frequency.

Also, sweeping around a frequency can be useful. And varying the wave form can help, for instance changing from sine to square form.

Hello
Changing the waveform is changing number and relative amplitudes of harmonics, playing with the Fourier transform. With a generator able to construct the waveform (from a lookup table) you can make whatever you want.
Best regards

Thank all of you for your responses. Unfortunately, most of your suggestions are far beyond my knowledge. I do know my machine only goes to 2200. One of the major issues I believe is I've been coiling in the wrong area because the MRI report was mis-leading in it's description. I have gone back to 2008 frequency for sarcomas, used a better placement of the coil and have continued to up the time to 10 minutes every 3rd day...in addition, I have added Ivermectin, fenbendazole and gone on a strick KETO diet. Hopefully this will help boost my immune system while killing the cancer! Thank you all again!

2200 is the highest...