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    Default Why use square waves as opposed to other types?

    Experiments by various researchers and scientists have shown that fast changes in wave amplitude, such as those encountered in square waves, are much more likely to have a devitalising effect on pathogens than slow ones (sine waves).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Walker View Post
    Experiments by various researchers and scientists have shown that fast changes in wave amplitude, such as those encountered in square waves, are much more likely to have a devitalising effect on pathogens than slow ones (sine waves).

    Peter, forgive me if I am repeating a question that might have been asked and answered a thousand time previously....
    So when do you use sine waves as opposed to using any other wave forms?

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    Default Re: Why use square waves as opposed to other types?

    Hi Dominic ,

    From what I have read on RifeForum (Search Engine) Sine Waves are used
    for healing and Square Waves for killing pathogens.
    For instance , 528 hertz (Dna Repair) must be used with Sine waves

    François.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dominic Asenso View Post
    Peter, forgive me if I am repeating a question that might have been asked and answered a thousand time previously....
    So when do you use sine waves as opposed to using any other wave forms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Lemettre View Post
    Hi Dominic ,

    From what I have read on RifeForum (Search Engine) Sine Waves are used for healing and Square Waves for killing pathogens.
    For instance , 528 hertz (Dna Repair) must be used with Sine waves

    François.

    Would that mean we cannot use Atelier Robin generators (F125/165/170) and other square wave only generators to do healing work?
    I think this matter MUST properly cleared up because there are too many conflicting information re the type of wave to use for healing and for killing bugs...
    Each vendor/manufacturer sings a different tune depending on which side of the fence they are sitting.

    So moderator and all you frequency nerds, the question IS,

    "Does healing occur only with Sine Waves and killing bugs only with Square Waves?"

    Dominic

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    Default Re: Why use square waves as opposed to other types?

    Hi Dominic,

    Dr. Rife has proven that Square waves kill pathogens :
    http://rife.org/john%20marsh/rifeinstrumenthistory.pdf
    A square wave can be represented as an infinite summation of sinusoidal waves:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_wave

    I cannot answer your questions for Atelier Robin generators as I don't own
    one of them. This question has already been answered on Rifeforum as well.

    For your last question , I prefer to test in the real world the sine or square
    waves and see what is happening. Theory is often different from reality.

    Regards,

    François.
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    Default Re: Why use square waves as opposed to other types?

    I only use square wave and never sine waves and I had great results with healing. I stick to what I found work in practice.
    Johann

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    Default Re: Why use square waves as opposed to other types?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johann Stegmann View Post
    I only use square wave and never sine waves and I had great results with healing. I stick to what I found work in practice.
    Johann
    I was running my spooky setup when I read your post about only using square waves. I had to stop spooky and re-configure it to square wave.

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    Default Re: Why use square waves as opposed to other types?

    Square waves are useful when you don't know the exact frequency or the frequency keeps changing. It is likely that square waves can be used for both healing and killing depending on how strong they are.

    An example of a device that uses square waves for healing is the SOTA Biotuner

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8VHn9Nx26w

    It is much harder to generate more than one frequency than to generate a square wave (which covers all frequencies). You'll find a good explanation of that in the Biotuner talk.

    The body simply doesn't use the frequencies that it doesn't need.

    Thus square waves are probably preferable to sine waves?



    Quote Originally Posted by Dominic Asenso View Post
    Would that mean we cannot use Atelier Robin generators (F125/165/170) and other square wave only generators to do healing work?
    I think this matter MUST properly cleared up because there are too many conflicting information re the type of wave to use for healing and for killing bugs...
    Each vendor/manufacturer sings a different tune depending on which side of the fence they are sitting.

    So moderator and all you frequency nerds, the question IS,

    "Does healing occur only with Sine Waves and killing bugs only with Square Waves?"

    Dominic

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    Default Re: Why use square waves as opposed to other types?

    This page illustrates that square waves can be used for both healing (biotuner) and killing (Silver Pulser):

    http://healyourselfathome.com/HOW/TH...EMFT_VSWT.aspx

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    Default Re: Why use square waves as opposed to other types?

    An Electrical Engineer here.

    A square wave is just lots of sine waves added together.

    So when you set any Rife machine to "square wave", you are actually setting it to "lots of simultaneous sine waves".

    Its kind of like adding red and blue light together to get violet.

    RED + BLUE= VIOLET

    The red light is still there, the yellow light is still there, but the combination looks like orange.

    Similarly, if you keep adding sine waves together, the whole thing starts to look more and more like a square wave (if you choose the right sine waves).

    There is a fantastic article on Wikipedia (ignore the math - scroll down to see the animation):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_wave

    Anthony Holland used square waves when killing cancer cells in a petri dish.



    In particular, Anthony used a Rife-Bare system which uses a 27.12Mhz radio-wave carrier frequency, amplitude modulated (AM) between 100kHz and 300kHz with a 50% duty cycle square wave. See www.Novobiotronics.com for his papers. Message me if you want more info.

    And an extra explanation for the interested:

    The Wikipedia animation shows that as you add more and more sine waves together, it starts to form a square wave (if you choose the right sine waves). The more sine waves you add together, the more the square wave starts to look like a perfectly square box (i.e. the "rise time" gets shorter). Now look at this from the opposite direction: if you directly generate a square wave with a fast rise time, you are actually generating a whole lot of simultaneous sine waves. It is this combination of different sine waves at just the right frequency that is good at killing bacteria (and cancer cells in a petri dish, as demonstrated by Anthony Holland).

    Now read this paragraph again with the word "harmonics" (or "frequencies") instead of "sine waves", and it will mean the same thing.

    For the interested, there is actually a mathematical formula which allows you to work out which fundamental sine waves you need to recreate any waveform. Not just square waves, but triangle waves, trapezoid waves, even a wave in the shape of the profile of the Mona Lisa. Look up "fourier series".
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    Default Re: Why use square waves as opposed to other types?

    Can somebody tell what year square wave generators were available to use and who made them at that time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Lemettre View Post
    Hi Dominic ,

    From what I have read on RifeForum (Search Engine) Sine Waves are used
    for healing and Square Waves for killing pathogens.
    For instance , 528 hertz (Dna Repair) must be used with Sine waves

    François.

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